Reporter: We haven’t really gone over formalities on what to ask what not to ask. However I would like for, many of the questions that we had coming were focusing on the evolution aspect of Mr. Yahya’s studies. But one question that come up and I’m pretty sure everybody is interested in “Is this Mr. Oktar’s, is this all of his work, is it a team? Is Harun Yahya a collaboration or is it just Mr.Yahya himself and a couple of assistants?
Adnan Oktar: First of all let me respond to my friends greetings. Ve aleykum Salam ve Rahmetullahu ve Berekatuhu. Of course there is a team effort. I have a group of colleagues made up of 30 professors and assistant professors. They present me all the information, documentation and photographs I need ready prepared. I then put those documents together, analyze and interpret them and put them into book form and give it to the proof-reader. It then comes back to me as a book.
Reporter: Alhamdulillah. Well, this is very clarifying for many people. I’d like to say that I am a very abid fan of Mr. Yahya’s, mostly his videos, I watch them. They agree with me one hundred percent in terms of evolution. They’ve even given me some fuel to combat those who believe in the evolution. However, one of the detractors constantly say that Mr. Yahya is not a scientist. Thus he is not qualified to speak about evolution. Now my usual response is that we have many Islamic scholars and then we have the people who talk about Islam. And very rarely is it the same person. You know, if you have a-, we have many people who discuss Islam. Publicly they get invited to functions and they are not scholars. But they are speaking about Islam. So I’m asking this question not to be combated but just for information purposes Is Mr. Yahya a scholar of evolution or is he just basically presenting to the world and he is backing it up with scientific information.
Adnan Oktar: For one thing, Darwin was not a scientist himself. He was someone very ignorant. Science and technology were not that advanced in his day. The technological means of the 19th century, the 1800s, applied. And he had received no training himself. He started two different schools and from both he was a truant from school. He had no education. He visited the Galapagos Islands while singing songs with a drunken ship’s crew. There he collected various animals and insects, pinned them onto cardboard and brought them back. He was not someone possessing of any profound research, culture or knowledge. Since Darwin was able to discuss these things, it is apparent that I do as well have the means to discuss these much more lengthily. In addition, Darwinism is not science. It is a religion, a pagan religion. It is a remnant pagan religion from the ancient Greek, ancient Egypt, Sumerians and also from various ancient mythological records which maintains that living things emerged by chance from mud or water. It is a highly primitive pagan religion. Explaining the formation of the universe and emergence of living things in terms of chance is the most primitive account possible. It is the furthest possible explanation from true science. But there is no need to be a scientist to comprehend creation. A child of 6 – 7 years can understand it. There are 250 million fossils that prove creation. 250 million pieces. Show a child just 50-100 of these 250 million fossils, put them on the table in front of him and ask how they were created. He will clearly see they were created and understand the creation. Because there is no difference in terms of bone structure, skeletal structure and body structure between fossils of animals belonging to those periods and those from today. There is no need to do any special research or possess any deep knowledge for that, and any scientist can grasp it. In addition, it is impossible for a protein to come into being by chance. That is sufficient evidence on its own to demolish Darwinism. Moreover, there is an unbelievable structure to DNA. Imagine a huge library in Great Britain. There is as much information as contained in that library encoded in a single strand of DNA. It is scientifically impossible for such a thing to happen by chance. There is no need for profound analysis, research or experience to realize this. A child of 7-8 can see it. Because we are not dealing with science. We are dealing with a pagan religion. We are discussing with a pagan religion. We are not talking with science. Science is paleontology, physics, chemistry, geology or medicine. Everyone active in those spheres is a scientist and worthy of respect. But it is not something that a rational person can be deceived into in the face of peculiar, mythological accounts based on chance, a violation of reason and logic, launched as a lie by a pagan priest. People who believe in Darwinism in this century will fall into disgrace. They will be astonished at themselves, they will be amazed. Darwinism will vanish from the face of the earth in 10 years at most. What will be left behind would be the astonishment of the people. They will be amazed how they ever believed in such a theory, how they were taken in, and how they ever believed, and how they ever tried to account for, such a nonsense belief that perfect universe, fruit, trees, flowers, human beings, plants and animals came into existence by chance.
Reporter: Thank you for such a very extensive answer and hopefully that was recorded and others can hear it and take good from it. One of the things I believe, and I accept Harun Yahya’s position I think Darwinism is contrary to science. I really do not think it is science, because I don’t believe that man just pops up, I don’t believe creation just popped up. I believe there was an oath and as a Muslim I believe Allah has created these things. However then the coursing arises if this is not science, if this is only a theory, if this is only conjecture at best, what do you believe is the motivating force that’s pushing this so hard to be accepted by so many people and why is it that the secularists seem to mock those who believe in Allah is being the Creator. If you could ask Mr. Yahya to give us a brief answer because I’ve done a lot of reading of him today, I’ve done a lot of listening of him today. And I know these are questions that constantly asked if anybody really wants to hear or find answer there are many places that can find, before the sake of gravity on this conversation why are people so quick to grasp so that this Darwinism and why are they marking the creation that Allah created everything nearly on “kun fayakoonu”?
Adnan Oktar: There is a global, very old, satanic organization behind Darwinism; Freemasonry. This stems from Freemasonry’s worldwide support. A mass hypnosis takes place. Freemasonry practically takes on the role of a cheerleader to ensure the general support of the masses. And thus they lead masses of people towards that ideology. People who believe in Darwinism are generally uninformed, shallow types who conduct no deep inquiries. Very few people do any deep research. For instance, only a few people know there are 250 million fossils and only a few know that there are no intermediary form fossils. They come to believe in Darwinism because of the brief reports and pictures they saw in magazines and newspapers. But what is in the root of this is that they do not have a tendency to believe in Allah anyway or that they merely do not believe in Allah. Since they need information to fill that void they allow themselves to be caught up by these beliefs that come from ancient Greek, ancient Egyptian and Sumerian myths. And due to the forthcoming support of the Freemasonry such an outcome is reached. They practically deceive such people with a weird reasoning like “modern man is a Darwinist” and similar.
Reporter: Ok. Well I think that is pretty much something. My questions regarding the battle between those who believe in Allah and those who do not. And the.., those who accept that Allah said “kun fayakoonu” and those who want to say that we evolve from other species and other species and so forth, or from that, what do they call that, from a primordial soup. All right. So that pretty much concludes that aspect of it. Now Mr. Yahya mentioned the Freemasons and he mentions in many of his writings the metaphysical aspects of Creation. And this brought questions in my mind as in what is his source? Once we’ve identified the problem, now we have to move to the solution. So the problem is now that we get forces of kufr and Freemasons etc. who are trying to get people to disbelief. I am trying now to understand what is Mr. Yahya promoting as far as to combat this ideology or this mentality.
Adnan Oktar: We need to give people the true facts in books and especially on the internet. For example, people were unaware of fossils. They have only just learned the existence of 250 million fossils that prove creation. They encounter thousands of photographs when they visit such web sites as www.harunyahya.net, www.harunyahya.org or www.harunyahya.com. They see there is no difference between the fossils in these photographs and present-day life forms. And that is enough. I mean just to see those would be enough. The best solution is to read my books and visit my web sites and learn the information provided there, for Muslims to transmit that information to one another and tell one another about it at meetings and when chatting at home. Furthermore, if possible, the definitive solution would be to print-out the material from those web sites and to tell the content of those print-outs to each other. But there are ready made videos and CDs. One can access these from anywhere in the world. They can narrate those to wide masses in meetings in assembly rooms or in home meetings or through internet link connections. This is what is going on at the moment. Members of the French Ministry of Education declare that Darwinism has now collapsed in France, saying what a terrible state they are in. They themselves declared that Darwinism is not popular among young people and that it doesn’t attract any attention. They have said that the reason for this is Harun Yahya. That is a great honor for me. It means they are no longer able to deceive people, the young. Young people, masha’Allah, are as bright as buttons and cannot be taken in. They go onto the net and learn the true facts about everything. And thus an end to this hoax is reached.
Reporter: Right. I am sorry may be my question was confusing. I was trying to move past to evolution and the Darwinism and I am trying to understand the aspects that Mr. Yahya has in terms of his understanding of the world because he mentions the end of the world, he mentions the Mahdi, he mentions Isa (saas). And I guess past leaving, moving from the evolution and Darwinism and now moving to as we converse among Muslims. For example I know that there is constantly the mentioning of pantheism or wahdeti wucut. And we have to understand as Muslims that we should all be thinking about Islam the same as far as Creationism, Darwinism, those issues that between the kufr(unbelievers). But now we are moving towards the Muslims. And in reading I was trying to get a better understanding of what the Muslims who are detractors of Mr. Yahya, regarding of his akida, regarding of his understanding of Islam. And where does that fit in to, or could Mr. Yahya explain that better for people so that we can get a better understanding maybe because I was reading today, I was somewhat confused on not understanding, maybe I am misunderstanding the aspect of all being everywhere and the whole pantheistic ideology which I know that some people say it is part of Islam and most say it is not and I was wondering if Mr. Yahya could explain that a little bit better for those of us who are not scholars we are not students of akida but for your everyday Muslims misunderstanding simple terms is he saying that Allah is within creation? Is he saying that we don’t really exist, everything is invisible, to an aspect where it nullifies our daily practice?
Adnan Oktar: In fact, there may have been a confusion over the concept of Wahdat al-Wujud(Unity of Creation). the people who described it might have been confusing as well . But there is nothing complicated about it. There is nowhere without Allah. If there happens to be a concept regarding a place in which Allah does not exist, then that would have been attributing partnership to Allah anyway. If a person says, “I am here but Allah is not,” if he says, “Allah is far away,” that is attributing partnership to Allah. That means that person is ascribing divine status to himself. Allah is everywhere, of course. He says that clearly in a verse, I take shelter in Allah from the satan, He says “We are closer to him than the jugular vein”. We can see from this that Allah is everywhere. If two people are together, the third is Allah. If there are three people, the fourth is Allah. That is clearly set out in verses of the Qur’an. The fact that Allah is everywhere is a source of great rejoicing for a Muslim, a matter of great pride. I take shelter in Allah from the satan, Almighty Allah says in another verse “wherever you turn, the Face of Allah is there.” He says you would be turning towards the Face of Allah. That is to say, Almighty Allah manifests that Allah is everywhere. For that reason, this is not a controversial and complicated subject. It is crystal clear and plain. Matter exists on the outside, but matter exists as a shadow entity. We perceive that matter as an image in our brains and have direct experience of that. Nobody can ever have direct experience of the original of matter. All scientists say that. It is something all scientists are agreed on, believers and non-believers. For that reason there is no complexity in this issue. That is a crystal clear point.
Reporter: So I guess for the average Muslim who hears this debate going back and forth, one of the questions or one of the statements you’ll hear people say then is, “is Allah in the room with me here?” “Is Allah in the fan? Is Allah in the bed? Is Allah in the couch?” When you say Allah is with us here, can you explain to us because there’s people hear this, people will hear and they’ll say see Harun Yahya has left Islam he has done this he has said that and I tend to not want to believe those type of things so I would like to make it as clear as possible. When you say that Allah is everywhere are you saying that He exist, that His existence is there or are you saying that He just, He’s aware of what’s there or in other words if you could speak it in a term that your everyday Muslim, because when other people hear this, they’ll stay this is not good, this is not Islam. So is he could just re-illiterate it in a better day so people can be clear about it.
Adnan Oktar: If one does not say “Allah is everywhere” then that would be attributing a partner to Allah. Then the person concerned would be effectively saying, “I am everywhere, but Allah is far away.” “I am everywhere but Allah is far distant. He does not enfold all places. He cannot be inside and outside all things, but I can.” If a person says that, then that would be attributing partners to Allah. Of course Allah is everywhere and He rules all places. There is nowhere from which Allah is absent. Allah is everywhere, in the nucleus of the atom, inside the electron, in the tiniest details, in the proton and the photon. He is inside, outside and all around everything.
Reporter: Ok. I am going, ok see what happens with translations and translators and I speak English you speak Turkish. We tend to say things in one language that may have a different meaning in a different language. You just made a statement that Allah is in the atom or Allah is in the room. And I’m, again not a student or a teacher about deen. I tend to believe that Allah is, you know, He’s in the throne and auction so forth. I don’t even debate those issues because I’ve never seen that debated anywhere, except by the scholars or the people who came after. It was a very simple concept. And this is my last question on this. But, you made it, the last statement you made was that Allah is in the atom or Allah is in the thing and I’m just gonna ask you one last time just clarify that a little better when you say Allah is in anything; because hadith says that the prophet (saas) asks a slave women where is Allah? She said “fi sama” now “fi sama” translates as in the heavens. Ok? Now, others would translate that saying me that He was above the heavens. And the prophet (saas) did not give in to semantics with the girl he says “fi sama” Ok? So I would like to make sure that we understand the roots of paganism or shirk is that you’re not worshipping the sky, the idle, you’re worshipping Allah in the idle, or you’re worshipping Allah through the idle. So I just want to make sure that your statements in conclusion on this sentence on this question are clear. Are you saying that we worship Allah through these items or are you saying that Allah is in the heavens?
Adnan Oktar: Let me clarify the hadith. There is a hadith which refers to “He is in the skies.” That is true. When we open our hands to pray to Allah. Imagine someone at the North Pole. That person will pray directly upward to the sky. An entity on Mars will pray toward the sky, or one on Venus. People at the North or South Pole, or on Venus will pray directly toward the sky. Putting all these together we can see that Allah is an entity that enfolds all of space. He rules in all directions, therefore. So what Rasulullah (saas) says is true. The hadith means that there is nowhere that does not contain Allah.
Reporter: Okay then. We’ll leave that aspect at that.. Now I would like to move to the - we’ve dealt with the attacks from the kufr in terms of Darwinism we’ve dealt with the attacks from the Muslims in terms of pantheism or Wahdet al-Vüjud. Now I would like to ask in terms of Mr. Yahya, my reading, I have my personal question I would like to ask him. Because in listening to his interviews and reading some of his statements earlier today, I came across quite a few mentions the Turkic, I will call it caliphate or summit or united body; what have you, what he sees in the future. Can you explain what that means in terms of help me as an American or a Chinese Muslim or a Muslim in Palestine. Or Muslim in London or South America, how are we supposed to interpret that thinking of Mr.Yahya’s?
Adnan Oktar: And end should be put to opposition stemming from denomination differences, from sectarian differences. There needs to be respect. Because we all believe in the same Allah and the same book and we all face the same kiblah. We are all bound to Rasulullah (saas) with a profound respect and regard him as our prophet. There is therefore agreement in all directions. It is wrong and ugly for Muslims to fall out over details, to be hostile to one another because that are Wahabbists or Shiites or Sunnis. We are in the age of the coming of Hazrat Mahdi (as). Hazrat Mahdi (as) will in any case do away with all sects. There will be a return to the time of Rasulullah (saas). We can see this from trustworthy hadith. We can see this clear fact in the books of hadith of Sunen-i Davud, Sunen-i Nesei, Ibni Mace, Bukhari, Muslim. Insha’Allah, Hazrat Mesih(as), Prophet Jesus(as), the son of Maryam will appear from the sky and will join forces with Hazrat Mahdi (as). The two will act together. Both are descended from the Prophet Ibrahim. The Messiah and the Mahdi are brothers. Together they will cause Islam to rule the world. Islam will be the only prevailing religion. There will be no other faith than Islam. That is the excellent age we are living in. For that reason, it is wrong for Muslims to fall out and oppose one another. We are all brothers. We must adopt a tolerant, mature and brotherly approach to differences. Allah will pronounce on them, and we must leave the decision to Him. We have a duty to strive with all our hearts, to strive to be genuine Muslims. And that is enough.
Reporter: Okay I understand as a Muslim that when the Mahdi comes and Isa comes everyone will be Muslim, Islam would be in every home. I understand that. But I am talking about from today- to that time. Okay? There was a mention of a Turkish Islamic Union. What exactly was the - where is that based upon in Islam that we will have a Turkish Islamic Union , a Palestinian Islamic Union, an American Islamic Union. I am trying to understand where Mr. Yahya is going with that ideology?
Adnan Oktar: The accounts state clearly that Hazrat Mahdi (as) will appear from Turkey, from among the Turks, from Istanbul. There are many hadith on the subject. Rasulullah (saas) says in the hadith that the Turks will first unite together, that the Turkish flags, the red flags will come together and that these will then unite with the green banners. That is explicitly the Turkish-Islamic Union. We can see this from the hadith of Rasulullah (saas). But we can also see it from the historic realities. That is because Turkey is currently in a natural leadership position. It literally is in the position of an older brother to the whole Islamic world. All activities concerning the Turkish-Islamic Union are being directed by Turkey. These activities are going ahead under Turkish chairmanship. We can see this from hundreds of developments and portents. Whoever we ask from any country, we get the same answer. That is therefore what is compatible with the hadith and with the historical realities. A Turkish-Islamic Union under the leadership of Turkey, under a Turkish leadership, is developing apace. The whole world has seen these developments. I said previously that such a development would take place. This progress has been continuing very rapidly in recent months.
Reporter: Okay. So in my listening today and in my listening to you now, I’m getting the impression that Mr.Yahya’s- pretty much it is his opinion that the rise of Islam will start from Turkey and then I guess move westward, yeah move westward you know spread to our earth. I do not particularly have a problem with that because I know that the Prophet(saas) spoke about the rise of Islam coming from Turkestan which is from my perspective that general area, from Afghanistan and so forth. He mentions something in terms of Israel, a united front with Israel, America and Turkey. Can you explain what that meant?
Adnan Oktar: The people in Israel, devout Jews, devout Christians and devout Muslims, are all our brothers. We have a duty to protect them. We have a duty to ensure they can live and worship in peace. The same goes for devout Muslims, Christians and Jews in America. They are all our brothers. We must strengthen the bonds between us. We must form an alliance with devout Christians and Jews. A powerful alliance against atheism, Darwinism and materialism will produce a world ruled by believers. That is a fact set out in the accounts. Hazrat Mahdi (as) will establish a dominion at first. Upon that ready set dominion, the Prophet Jesus(as) will appear insha’Allah.
Reporter: Okay. You know what funny is, as this interview goes on, I have twenty or thirty questions that come up for myself. I mean forget about the others. And I am trying to get a grasp on what Mr.Yahya’s position is. Because I am of the position in my understanding of Islam is that Christianity and Judaism are incorrect beliefs and that one has to be Muslim to be rightfully guided. Does Mr. Yahya believe this?
Adnan Oktar: Of course, Christianity and Judaism have been corrupted. They have been altered in some respects. But the originals of the Torah and the New Testament will be found in the time of Hazrat Mahdi (as). Hazrat Mahdi (as) will rule the Jews with the original of the Torah and Christians with the original of the New Testament. And he will strive to perfect them within their own faiths. But with the coming of the Prophet Jesus, all the people of the book- there is a verse of the Qur’an on this issue, I take shelter in Allah from satan, Almighty Allah says “There is not one of the People of the Book who will not believe in him before he dies.” Every single one of the People of the Book will come to believe in him, the prophet Jesus(as). Furthermore- I take shelter in Allah from satan, Almighty Allah says, “I will make those who believe in you-(To the prophet Jesus(as)) superior to the kafir until Doomsday.” That is Allah’s promise. He says that the coming of the Prophet Jesus is a “Sign of the Hour..” The coming of the Prophet Jesus is now imminent. We can expect him within the next 10-20 years, insha’Allah.
Reporter: Yeah. But in this day in time. Today, 2009, 1430, should we be- in other words as we look at the world today, we see a struggle of Christianity versus Islam. We see Zionism versus Islam. And when we study the life of the Prophet (saas) and the companions that came after him, they went forth to bring Islam to the people. Because according to the ayat, the only religion that is accepted by Allah after Rasulullah is Islam. Does Mr.Yahya agree with it? As of today, not 10 years or 20 years from now, but as of today the only religion that is acceptable by Allah is Islam.
Adnan Oktar: This is quite explicit, of course.
Reporter: Oh, okay. Alhamdulillah . Okay so I am trying to understand that why would we as Muslims we unify with Israelis and Americans, when in essence we want them to accept Islam or in other words I get the impression that Mr.Yahya’s saying that we can all, the three can sit at the table when I am of the impression Islam is supposed to be the legislator and everyone else is submissive to Islam. The reason why I am saying this is I don’t want people- I have a thing with interfaith issues. Because I personally, and for my understanding of Islam, is that interfaith is contrary to what Islam is supposed to be today and I am getting the impression in listening to Mr.Yahya, though he spoke his say on Darwinism, may Allah bless him for that because I do believe that is an important aspect of attacking kufr these days. I don’t want our solution to be a non-solution.
Adnan Oktar: Not at all. This was put into practice in the time of Rasulullah (saas). Jews and Christians lived together in peace under Muslim administration. They were completely free to worship as they chose. Their lives and security were perfectly guaranteed. They lived in total ease. The same happened in the Ottoman period. Christians and Jews were treated with respect and love, and it was ensured that they lived in peace and security. In the same way, the Turkish-Islamic Union also promises them peace and security. It promises them to give the means to practice their religion in peace. It will be the same as it was in the time of Rasulullah (saas). There is nothing surprising about that.
Reporter: So if I am understanding you correctly, Mr.Yahya’s saying that we should not be moving toward a caliphate, the Jews and Christians paying a jizya or anything like that but more of a peaceful co-existence with everyone in this time and wait until the Mahdi comes, is that correct?
Adnan Oktar: In my view, it is impossible for Muslims to have a spiritual leader before Hazrat Mahdi (as) comes. Islamic union, the Turkish-Islamic Union could possibly form as a union, that could happen. But it is impossible in destiny for anyone other than Hazrat Mahdi (as) to head the Islamic world. That is explicitly set out in the hadith. No Muslim country could accept that, none could accept anyone from another sect of belief being leader of the whole Islamic world. They will only accept Hazrat Mahdi (as). And, in my view, Hazrat Mahdi (as) is already here. Insha’Allah all the Islamic world will see Hazrat Mahdi (as) in the next 10 years. The Prophet Jesus(as) will be seen in the open by the whole world within the next 20 years. That is the destiny of the world. That is what the descriptions in the hadith make crystal clear. This is not an utopia nor a dream; all these portents described by Rasulullah (saas) have already come about. Those of our brothers who so wish can see the explicit evidence of these facts on the harunyahya.net, harunyahya.org and harunyahya.com web sites.
Reporter: Okay. Well I’d like to thank you. I just like one last question, from my understanding it is about the time to go. I guess you believe that the Mahdi is here now, I presume you think he is in Turkey. I would like for you to confirm that and what makes you think that he is definitely amongst us now. And that’s part one and the last question would be if the Mahdi is not here now, if the Mahdi is not coming for another 1000 years or 500 years or not even for another 100 years, what do you propose? Thank you and I will listen to your answer.
Adnan Oktar: There is no other century in which Hazrat Mahdi (as) can come. According to the hadith, Hazrat Mahdi (as) must definitely appear this century. There are hadith that speak explicitly of 1500 (Islamic calendar)years in Suyuti. The end of the ummah is at hand. Said Nursi says Doomsday will take place in 1545. Anyone looking at Suyuti’s hadith, at his works, can see that the life of the ummah will extend to 1500. And these are completely trustworthy hadith. All the portents of the coming of Hazrat Mahdi (as) have taken place. For instance, the shedding of blood at the Kaaba, the invade of the Kaaba, the stopping of the waters of the Euphrates, the occupation of Iraq, the invasion of Afghanistan, the Iran-Iraq War, lunar and solar eclipses at 15-day intervals, a huge sign in the Sun and many others have all come about. These portents have never all happened together over the last 1400 years, but they have all happened in this century. All the portents listed by Rasulullah (saas) have happened. Bediuzzaman Said Nursi explicitly states that Hazrat Mahdi (as) will appear in Istanbul in 1400 [Islamic calendar]. And none of Said Nursi’s predictions have so far failed to come true. Everything he said has so far come true. He provided nearly 100 dates relating to the future. And they have all come true. We can see that the developments concerned with the coming of Hazrat Mahdi (as) are continuing at high speed from historical events, sociological developments, current affairs, and the collapse of Darwinism, materialism and communism. Even this economic crisis is something described in the hadith. It is a metaphysical phenomenon. We can see from the hadith that it will only be resolved in the time of Hazrat Mahdi (as).
Reporter: Fine, I understand the signs may be there and Mr.Yahya may be 100%, well 99% correct. But just to clarify what if we are looking at another 100 years do we still maintain the attitude of waiting for the Mahdi or what would you suggest?
Adnan Oktar: They must believe me. Hazrat Mahdi (as) has really appeared.
Adnan Oktar: I am someone who thinks rationally and speaks in the light of concrete evidence. I have never to date retracted anything I have said nor been embarrassed by anything I have said. Everything I have said to date has come true. Let people also believe me on this. I am speaking quite explicitly.
Reporter: Well I would, on behalf of everyone at ummah.com, I would like to thank Mr.Yahya for coming and answering the questions we had and I hope we didn’t labor him too long and May Allah bless him and May Allah guide us all closest to the right path. Amin.
Adnan Oktar: Thank you. It has been a pleasure. My greetings to all my brothers. They can trust me. We are in a delightful age. Insha’Allah we shall see Hazrat Mahdi (as) and the Prophet Jesus. Islam will definitely rule the world this century. Let them join hands and live together in joy. What I have said is absolutely true. They can be at ease on that. I am speaking in the light of very sound evidence and sources.
Adnan Oktar: Assalamu alaikum ve Rahmetullahi ve Berekatehu
Reporter: Ve Alaikum Selam ve Rahmetullahi ve Berekatehu
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