The collective identity error concerning the Prophet Jesus (as)

ADNAN OKTAR’S LIVE INTERVIEW ON KON TV (8 February 2009)

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ADNAN OKTAR’S LIVE INTERVIEW ON KON TV (8 February 2009)

ADNAN OKTAR: Said Nursi says in the Rays p.463 about The Prophet Jesus (pbuh), “He, who is in the heavens with his human body” “… It could only be a wondrous person with marvels, who is miraculous and who is commonly accepted - this is because he is also the prophet of the Muslims as well- that person is the Prophet Jesus(as).”

“A trusty informer, relying on the promise of the Almighty had presaged that the person of the Prophet Jesus (as) – so that means this is not a collective identity, does it not? He refers to the person of Jesus, in other words, to him personally - who is present with his human body in the world of the heavens – in other words, in human form, in material form - the person of Jesus (as) will come to lead the true religious movement, true religion.” Letters p.60. He says it is certain that he will come.

“It is a sign and an insinuation that the number of the spiritual community of strugglers who will recognize the Prophet Jesus (as) – He does not refer to Jesus (as) as a collective identity, they should be honest about this, look, he makes it perfectly clear- the spiritual community of strugglers who will recognize Jesus (as) – in other words the community of spiritual strugglers- through the light of faith,- through the light of their faith- will be very few and small when compared to the schools and military - ‘scientific’ and physical- forces of the antichrist..” The Rays, the Fifth Ray, Second Station, p. 111.

It is said in the accounts that the Prophet Jesus (as) will come – see, not a collective personality, but the Prophet Jesus (as) will come- will subordinate himself to the Hazrat Mahdi (as) in the prayer - he attaches himself, he abides his imamate- he follows him. This refers to the - alliance, this union, and to the sovereignty of the Reality of the Qur’an - to the following of the truth of the Qur’an, to abiding them and to their sovereignty “– in other words, he says that the Prophet Jesus (as) will abide the Qur’an. The Rays, p.587

“The Prophet Jesus (as) who is present with his human body in the world of the heavens – look, in bodily form in the world of the heavens, in human form- and who is alive)– is there any reference to a collective personality here? No.- and had he truly died and departed for the furthest corner of the hereafter - to clothe him in his body and send him to the world with his body, for such a momentous result is not far removed from the wisdom of Him the Lord. May be He promised it because His wisdom required it to be thus, and since He promised it, He will most certainly send him.” Letters, Fifteenth Letter, p.80.

”Yes, the heavenly appearance, the return, of the Prophet Jesus (as) as certain and definite-look how Said Nursi describes this event-and in the metaphorical sense, as with other certain facts, he indicates a miraculous aspect of this.” Kastamonu Addendum 80-82

There is no reference to a collective personality here, it is very clearly described that he will personally be returning.

“The Prophet Muhammad (saas) alluded to this great mystery when he said: “Prophet Jesus (as) will come, he will be of my community and will act in accordance with my Shari‘a [the essence of Qur'anic moral values and the Sunnah of our Prophet (saas)].”

“ When Jesus (as) comes, it is not necessary that everyone should know him to be the true Jesus. His elect and those close to him will recognize him through the light of belief. It will not be self-evident so that everyone will recognize him when he first arrives.” – it will be understood subsequently. Letters, p.80.

“In fact, although when Jesus (as) comes he himself will know he is Jesus, not everyone will know. “notice how there is no reference to a collective personality It is known only through vigilance of the light of faith, not everyone will know. Rays, p.98.

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