ADNAN OKTAR'S LIVE INTERVIEW ON KON TV
(8 February 2009)
ADNAN OKTAR: Our Prophet (saas) makes it very clear, saying: "He is like the Prophet Yusuf (as)." He says he will disappear. They ask our Prophet (saas) how he will disappear. In describing his disappearance, he says that he will be cast into a dungeon, into prison, just like the Prophet Yusuf (as). He does not say anything about him becoming like a wraith and moving about invisibly among people. Hazrat Mahdi (as) will suffer pain and difficulty, but can someone who is invisible suffer? Can you put an invisible man in prison? An invisible man can just walk out of that prison. You cannot hold an invisible man behind bars. He will just walk out, like a spirit. He says that his concealment will last a long time and that he will be under threat just like the Prophet Musa (as). He says, "He will resemble the Prophet Musa (as) in terms of fear." That is in terms of being threatened, at risk and in danger. Accounts even say that "The dajjal's armed men will have Hazrat Mahdi (as) under surveillance."
Hazrat Mahdi (as) will be concealed from them. So why should he be concealed in spirit form? Think for a moment, why should someone in spirit form bother to conceal himself at all? Why should he end up in prison? He will suffer. Our Prophet (saas) says that "Hazrat Mahdi (as) will be chained hand and foot." He will have chains on his hands and separate chains on his feet. But how can you chain someone in the form of a spirit? That is obviously impossible. Sunni sources make it perfectly plain that Hazrat Mahdi (as) will be born to a physical mother and father and that he will be a sayyid. But because they were unable to explain this disappearance of his they said he would vanish in a spirit-like state. That is how the Shiites have interpreted it.
But our Prophet (saas) perfectly made it clear that "He will go to prison, and he will be concealed like the Prophet Musa (as)."These are his two disappearances. Ghaybat al-Sughra and Ghaybat al-Kubra, a minor disappearance and his major disappearance. In other words, he will be concealed in prison, one, and then there is his normal concealment from people, one that takes place for his personal safety. "The dajjal will persecute Hazrat Mahdi (as)" he says. ‘he will constantly beat him on his abdomen and on his back, and Hazrat Mahdi (as) will begin to expand as he beats him."In other words, he says that his name and fame will begin to spread across the world. The media and the television of the time will attack Hazrat Mahdi (as). The more they attack him, the more Hazrat Mahdi's (as) renown will spread. That is what he means by his being beaten on the abdomen and back.
PRESENTER: There has been such a misconception among the Shiites for hundreds of years.
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, but that is also for the best. It was a cover for Hazrat Mahdi (as), but Allah has now lifted that cover. It allowed Hazrat Mahdi (as) to remain concealed. There is also a verse referring to this. I take refuge in Allah from the cursed satan: "O he who has been covered up,"He says, "rise and frighten them." In other words, start preaching the word and spreading the faith. This is one of the verses that refer to Hazrat Mahdi (as) being concealed for a time. That is the figurative meaning of the verse.