Adnan Oktar: … We, as the public, need to develop brotherhood, love and peace. For instance, nowadays Gilad Schalit’s father will be coming from Israel, insha’Allah. The newspapers have also reported this. It has been in Aksam and Radikal.

Oktar Babuna: It was also reported in the Israeli press.

Adnan Oktar: Yes, it appeared in the Israeli press and also the world press, and the web sites in many parts of the world. I really do feel for that young man. He is rather an aggrieved one. His parents are terribly worried. It has been some years now, hasn’t it?

Adnan Oktar: But of course another one of the things that trouble us is the Palestinians in prisons. In my view those young girls, women and men should all be released. All of them. But we must also speak with those brothers of ours. They may have been terrorists before, have done things or shed blood, but if they have served their sentence there is no sense in leaving them there and delaying their release. And we must talk to them and ask them to come out in opposition to this anarchy and terror, and even become teachers on the subject. In such a way to say "come on friends, let us put an end to terror and anarchy". It would be very felicitous for these brothers, to be assigned as teachers in Palestine about the issue and it would be highly effective as they are at the heart of the matter. Israel will be able to relax and Palestine, too. I want them all to be very happy. I want them all to return home. I would not want anyone to remain in prison. Niether our Palestinian brothers

should be left in prison, nor this young man. And nor should rockets be launched against Israel.

Of course these are all highly disturbing. All of them. I find it very odd that rockets are launched against Israel. We have Muslim brothers there, and Jewish and Christian ones. Don’t we?

Adnan Oktar: These are all innocent people. What do these people do? They are sitting peacefully at home with their families and children. Imagine a rocket had fallen in a playground. Imagine it exploded there. Isn’t that a terrible crime against those children? But in the same way, Israel too has to soften its own attitude. But amazingly this has begun.

Adnan Oktar: In fact I am not surprised, because this is quite normal. But I am saying so, as it actually is an amazing thing. We can see that the Messiah that Israel, the Jews have been waiting for thousands of years, that is Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh), has come. They wonder why Israel has softened its attitude so much. They wonder why they are so gentle. They are asking what is happening to Israel that it is not as harsh as it used to be. The reason why is because the spirit of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh), the Messiah has spread there.

Adnan Oktar: In other words, the spirit of affection, love, friendship and brotherhood of the system of the Mahdi is spreading everywhere. These are signs of the coming of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh), the Messiah. So of course Israel will rapidly head in the direction of peace, brotherhood and friendship. All the religious groups there will live together as brothers, in peace. By Allah’s leave, not a single terrorist will be left in Palestine.

Adnan Oktar: There will be nobody left to shed blood because that is a requirement of the spirit of the Mahdi. There is no blood in the system of the Mahdi. Not a drop of blood will be spilled. Nobody’s nose will be made to bleed. Nobody will suffer hardship. By Allah’s leave, plenty and abundance will come to Palestine. Plenty and abundance will come to Israel. We will tear down all of Israel’s walls, insha’Allah. There are the holy sites in the lovely mountains of Israel. Insha’Allah we will all eat together. We will talk, and they will perform their observances, insha’Allah. We will perform our own observances.

Adnan Oktar: Thus we are headed toward a fine and happy age.

Oktar Babuna: They have a huge admiration and love for the Turks. There was even a recent report saying that a Turkish village was being set up in Palestine. The Red Crescent was working in the region to be ready to provide aid in the event of anything happening, and the Turkish Red Crescent was given land in Jerusalem, insha’Allah.

Adnan Oktar: The war between Palestine and Israel is so artificial. For one thing, Israel should be there. That takes place in the Qur’an. They are there. According to the Qur’an, they live there. And since we are Muslims. It is the home of their forebears. All their graves are there, all their ancestors. Of course they will live there. It would be oppression to force them to live with no homeland. How could anyone tell them just to get lost, no matter where? They go to Spain, and they are told to go away. If they go somewhere else they say "go away from here as well, we don't want you here”. What do you expect them to do, go into outer space? Why force them from their ancestral lands? Why disturb them? Let them live there. There is enough land for everyone there. There is plenty of room for our Palestinian brothers, endless expanses of land. And enough for our Israeli brothers. The numbers of both sides are in any case very small, insha’Allah. But both sides must be treated with love and affection. They have suffered much. Palestine and Israel have both suffered terribly. They sit at home worried about a rocket landing on them any minute. The other side is always worried about being shelled. One is the sons of the Prophet Ishmael (pbuh) and the other the sons of the Prophet Jacob (pbuh), Israel. They are both children of the same father. Both sides believe in the One Allah, in the Hereafter, in Allah’s angels and in the same prophets of the past, so what is happening is a terrible stratagem of satan’s. Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh), the Messiah has now come to break satan’s neck. And the Mahdi has broken his neck and he is now writhing about. Peace and brotherhood will soon reign. “Israel has lost its former strength,” [they say], see that they are playing a trick. They want to provoke Israel. But in reality, Israel is now finding its true power. It has begun becoming the real Israel. There is love and peace in the true Israel, and brotherhood and friendship, respect for all religions and service toward Allah. They have now begun following that line. Atheist Israelis are provocative. “How can you be that gentle, you should be strong and cruel, and strike back,” [they say]. Is that what is revealed in the Torah? The Torah describes love and affection. What is the feature of the Messiah, the Mahdi to come? Affection, peace and love. Does not the Torah say that he will smash and eliminate all weapons? Does it not say he will snap bows, arrows and spears? And does it not say that he will turn them into plows? That is to say he will use them in agriculture, in the building of technical devices. Consequently it means the system of the Messiah, the system of the Mahdi, has spread to those regions. It has spread all over Turkey and the whole Islamic world. These signs will increase still further. Those who encourage conflict, dispute and brute force will be constantly on the back foot. These guests who are coming, for example, are immaculate people, very worthy. We will try to welcome in the finest manner, insha’Allah. We will be receiving a highly large group of guests. The papers say that, “Gilad Schalit’s father is coming to meet with Adnan Hodja.” “Noam Schalit, the father of the Israeli soldier Gilad Schalit who is currently in the hands of Hamas, will come to Turkey next week to take part in an inter-faith meeting and will meet with Adnan Oktar, better known as Adnan Hodja,” the report says. “According to a report in the Jerusalem Post, Schalit the father [will hold a meeting with Adnan Oktar]… known to have good relations with Hamas and Iranian officials and to be an outspoken opponent of zionism”… Look, that is a false report in the Jerusalem Post.  Like the known press we have, the one owned by the baron. Just the same style. “Known to be an outspoken opponent of zionism.” Yes, I am opposed to zionism, but what kind of zionism?

Adnan Oktar: Atheist zionism, isn’t it? What we mean by it is the masonic thinking that wishes to oppress the entire humanity. And masonry. Therefore, what could I possibly say against Israeli devout brothers of ours? They are very close and dear to me. They come to us with trust and love, and stay at our places as if at their own homes. They live in peace. They eat the food we cook, don’t they? They chat and talk in our homes.

Adnan Oktar: Of course, they entrust their lives, they are in a state of complete trust. Therefore, the style here used by the Jerusalem Post is an insincere one. It even says “outspoken”. It should have emphasized what it is; that what we mean is masonry. “It is confirmed by Israeli officials that he will meet and ask for Adnan Hodja’s assistance in securing the release of his son. It is also stated in the report that in addition to Adnan Hodja, Noam Schalit will meet with a second religious leader.” There is no such thing, this is wrong too. They are coming only to meet me. This is an ungrounded statement. “Ayoub Kara from the Likud, who confirms the report, says ‘These two people have great influence in the Islamic world.’” This is not true either because we know that they’ll meet only us. “Both of them campaign for efficiency over the radical organizations of the Islamic world.” I am in no campaign whatsoever. I love all Muslims. Radical or not, they are all Muslims. If one is mistaken, we try to correct him. We’ll explain; they are also human beings, they are also Muslims. If one is erroneous, we’ll correct him. For example, if one is involved in terrorism, we’ll warn him.

Oktar Babuna: It happened in the case of Iran, for example. You said that atomic bomb is forbidden in Islam, and Iranian officials immediately restated the same. And the entire world was relieved.

Adnan Oktar: Yes, of course. Iranian officials used to say that they would destroy Israel, didn’t they? The [Iranian] Prime Minister and the President shared the same opinion. Then I explained; I said that there are Muslims, Christian brothers and Jewish brothers in Israel, it is a holy land. It is out of the question to destroy that land. We said that the Mahdi to come will not shed blood and will not awaken anyone asleep. We looked and saw Ahmadinejad, Masha’Allah just after a week, as I said that he should say it just the same, made an official statement expressing the exact same. He used the exact same sentences, didn’t he? He said that no blood will be spilt, and that they held no such view towards Israel.

Oktar Babuna: He even referred to the atheist zionists, using the same phrase…

Adnan Oktar: Yes, that’s what I had said. I corrected that as well. Atheist zionists, in other words masons. I drew attention to that, and he said the same. They had the impression that we were influential on Ahmadinejad. That surely produced a positive point of view in balances. “Both of them campaign for efficiency over the radical organizations of the Islamic world. And they both enjoy good relations with Iran. Since Hamas is based on religious foundations, only religious leaders can speak to them.” I am not a leader, but just a humble servant of Allah. I am a writer. “By more moral, ideological, spiritual means,” yes, that’s good. Look, “more moral, ideological…” though we don’t have anything to do with ideologies. “Moral, spiritual…”, in other words Islamic, Quranic means… “we may be able to achieve results, he said.” That’s true. The report says, “It was confirmed by letters and images sent to his family in recent months that soldier Gilad Schalit, who was captured by Hamas about two and a half years ago, was still alive.” We will strive as much as we can to ensure that nice lad will be released to his family insha’Allah.

Oktar Babuna: After you explained this subject and by means of your works on Israel and Darwinism, there has been immense relief. Sincere Jews feel great respect and love for our Hodja. And that they ask for help, trusting in him, is a result of this insha’Allah.

Presenter: Congratulations.

Adnan Oktar: … The kid, for instance, took something into his hand, that day’s newspaper. With fear, the poor kid puts it down from his face. Now, there is no need for these. Hamas’ political leaders, or other leaders, they are in penitentiaries in Israel. This, in return, causes a tension because it brings about anger against Israel. The man’s son is in penitentiary, so anger gains ground against Israel. Let’s release all of these men, but let’s talk. That is, there is no longer any need for anarchy, terror. They are very pure. They are descendants of prophets. You are also descendants of prophets. The sons of the Prophet Ishmael (pbuh), sons of the Prophet Abraham (pbuh). The entire Arabia is so, the Arabs. Let’s live beautifully as brothers. It is an immensely vast land. It has no bounds. Let’s lay beautiful tables on the ground, nicely roast a lamb and converse. There is no problem, what is it that cannot be shared? In fact for Israel, that is to say, for the true devout Israelis, according to the Torah, according to the commandments of the Torah – it has distorted passages but the genuine parts are apparent – love and peace are essential. Look, the Messiah and Hazrat Mahdi (as) to come will shed no blood whatsoever. It is said, he will bring peace and remove all weapons from the face of the Earth. Torah makes this clear and it is also so in the hadith. It is the same. Consequently we will reveal the original Judaism insha’Allah. We will ensure that people live by genuine Judaism. I already have a book on this subject, right?

Oktar Babuna: Wisdom and Sound Advice from the Torah.

Adnan Oktar: I have a book called, Wisdom and Sound Advice from the Torah. In this book, we quoted all the undistorted parts and fine words of the Torah insha’Allah and presented them to the Israeli young people. I consider Israel being irreligious as a great danger. We’ll never allow it. Never. People in those places will insha’Allah be like their ancestors. That is, like the Prophet Abraham (pbuh). Insha’Allah. Extremely devout, submitted to Allah and meticulous about sacred values.

Oktar Babuna: Insha’Allah.

Adnan Oktar: It will consist of courteous, mannered, decent young people. I can never accept an immoral Israeli youth. That is what masonry aims. We won’t allow it, never. We won’t allow it in Iraq either. We certainly will never allow it in Turkey. We have not allowed and we have already obtained results. Right now 99% of people in Turkey do not believe in Darwinism.

Oktar Babuna: Yes. May Allah be pleased with you.

Adnan Oktar: Darwinists had domination in Israel. Thanks to a number of activities we put an end to it in Israel.

Oktar Babuna: Masha’Allah.

Adnan Oktar: Students have also come here. I talked to them, they were our guests. Very cute and lovely guests, they filled the house. Some of them just entered into the kitchen. They found things to eat with real pleasure. In fact they were much more comfortable here than their own homes. They just sat comfortably, that was fantastic. They were cheerful. I really appreciate it. Let them eat and drink as they like as they are our dear, beloved brothers.

Oktar Babuna: With love and respect.

Adnan Oktar: Others ask, “How come they are your brothers?” Why should they not be my brothers? On which basis they are not my brothers?

Oktar Babuna: Insha’Allah.

Adnan Oktar: Aren’t they from the lineage of the Prophet Abraham (pbuh)?

Oktar Babuna: Yes. They are .

Adnan Oktar: Don’t they say Allah is One?

Oktar Babuna: Yes, they do.

Adnan Oktar: Joseph, Ishmael, Isaac, Aaron, Moses (peace be upon them all). Don’t they love all the prophets?

Oktar Babuna: Yes, they love all.

Adnan Oktar: Why should I not call the ones who believe in Paradise, Hell, angels as my brothers? They are my brothers in La ilaha ill Allah.

Oktar Babuna: Yes. Masha’Allah.

Adnan Oktar: My brothers in La ilaha ill Allah Muhammadan RasulAllah are the entire Muslim world.

Oktar Babuna: Because you are acting according to the Qur’an with great compassion, there is remarkable love and affection for you there; among the Jews, as well as Christians and Muslims in Israel.

Oktar Babuna: The Jews were relieved when you showed them the solution, and told them that the Solomon’s Masjid will be rebuilt; Solomon’s Masjid, Dome of the Rock and Al-Aqsa Mosque, all three will be in the same area and the members of the three religion should be able to worship there freely.

Adnan Oktar: Of course, Solomon’s Masjid is mentioned in the Qur’an. We go there, but there is no Masjid. How does this happen? They say, “it is demolished”. Then we will build it. We will rebuild it. What does “demolished” mean? Yes, it might have been demolished, but many buildings such as Suleymaniye Mosque, Blue Mosque were ruined in earthquakes. Many of them were ruined in fires. Isn’t it so? So is Agasophia, it is restored dozens of times. But it is still standing. So how come that Solomon’s masjid is not standing, only its base is left. There is nothing left from the Masjid. Of course we will not allow this. We will, with Allah’s leave, rebuild the Masjid with all its magnificence and beauty. There will be a place of worship for the Christians. Also a place of worship for our Jewish brothers. And there will be a place of worship for our Muslim brothers. The Masjid will shine from even very far away. Glitteringly.

Oktar Babuna: Insha’Allah.

Adnan Oktar: Insha’Allah. The Muslims will come and sacrifice animals there. The Jews will also sacrifice animals there. And right there we will grill the meat and offer it to the poor. Just near it, the fire will be lit alongside insha’Allah. The excellent smell of the kebab will fill the area, insha’Allah. We will serve them with bread to the poors insha’Allah. For the approval of Allah.

Oktar Babuna: Not only that, you have said that we will rebuild all the other masjids that were demolished, insha’Allah.

Adnan Oktar: Of course, we will rebuild the masjids of the Prophets Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Aaron (peace be upon them). There has to be a masjid near the graves of all of them. All these places will be thriving. Now there are hotels, bars, and clubs next to these places. This is unacceptable. By Allah’s will, we will close them all and rebuild the masjids.

Oktar Babuna: Also the ones near the Kaaba.

Adnan Oktar: Kaaba as well. They have crowded the surroundings of the Kaaba with skyscrapers. You look there and cannot see the Kaaba. It is left there all small and tiny. There are gigantic buildings around. By the leave of Allah, we will remove all those buildings there, no matter how many. We will open up the lands of the Kaaba. We will go down to the footprints of the Messenger of Allah (saas). We will lift up all that concrete. The footprints of the Messenger of Allah (saas) will remain there. The places he walked on. We will open up those lands. We will green those places, that is a separate issue, rivers will flow, there will be gardens. They can establish the city 40 kilometers away or 50 kilometers away. That is a huge land. Why does it have to encircle the Kaaba like a sheath, and shield the Kaaba completely? We should be able to see the Kaaba even from a distance of 50 kilometers. From a distance of 50 kilometers. The area should be wide and spacious. Let them do it. Look, they are doing that to no purpose. You will see that all of those will be cast down, let me tell you. They are saying that they will fill the place with skyscrapers. Those skyscrapers will be cast down one by one. It would just take our time and cause extra expense; it would be all that they are doing. I mean, they are doing those for nothing. Insha’Allah.  All the places around the Kaaba will be prosperous insha’Allah. Lots of mosques are left wretched. These are the places that the Prophets Ishmael and Abraham (peace be upon them both) wandered around. These are excellent places. They should be full of cultivated fields and gardens. There will be vineyards. There will be cherry trees, banana trees. All the trees mentioned in the Qur’an. All the creatures. There will be gazelles. Beautiful lambs. Those will be the things we will find there. Concrete? What are we to do with concrete, what good does it do? Turn to right you see concrete, turn to left and you see concrete. Consequently, Israel will also be extremely comfortable and prosperous insha’Allah. There are a lot of poor people in Israel. The great majority of the people in Israel are poor. They live miserable lives.

Oktar Babuna: There are no luxurious cars in the city. Actually there is not a single one in the streets.

Adnan Oktar: They can barely make their food. They are really miserable.

Oktar Babuna: And, as you know better, they are sending their children to the army; both the girls and the boys are sent to the army at the age of 17 just after they graduate from high school. The boys are serving for three years. And the girls are serving for two years in the army.

Adnan Oktar: Why is there the need? Insha’Allah. That is up to them of course. But the Turkish nation is the lion of the region. Think of it as a giant lion. Once it roars, the world will be rocked, by the leave of Allah. His roaring will suffice. Once the Turkish nation roars, all the area around will rattle. The Turkish world is the leader of the Turkish-Islamic world. That has become explicit. Everyone had accepted that this is the case. Start from Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, go up to Pakistan. Leadership is a hard work, they tell us, “you claim it, is this egoistical?” Leadership means suffering. When the Turkish nation becomes the leader, it will be suffering. Our lions went to Yemen, and they became martyrs there. Our brave lions went there on foot. It is leadership but we have suffered. We suffered in Libya. We suffered everywhere. Is being a leader an easy task? We have suffered in the Balkans. Consequently being a leader means serving. And Allah has entrusted us with that blessed task. He gave it to our glorious army, our heroic army. Blessed Said Nursi refers to the “heroic army and the faithful nation.” He says that; “it is understood from the accounts that the heroic army and the faithful nation, with the light of the Qur’an, will come to see the true situation and will try to repair the damage that the terrifying committee had caused” that is to say the alleged Ergenekon organization. He says that they will definitely use the concepts of Turkishness and Turkism but they will not succeed and they will retreat. Said Nursi says there are three phases of this. Three separate phases. And the last one is preserving the status. Now that the preserving part is gone, they are directly at the bottom.

Oktar Babuna: Masha’allah. Yes.