From Mr. Adnan Oktar's live interview on Dem TV and Tempo TV on December 18th , 2009
ADNAN OKTAR: It was Lenin who came up with the philosophy of unsolved killings. In other words, Lenin recommends political killings, stemming from a Marxist mindset. It is an idea put forward by Karl Marx, Lenin and Stalin. In short, it is a diabolical idea, and one whose roots are based in Freemasonry. Freemasonry does not commit its own murders, certainly it uses puppet organizations instead. Like the PKK, or the alleged organization Ergenekon, or various communist organizations, and thus they progress by bloodshed. Bloodshed is not an attribute unique to the alleged organization Ergenekon. When it was first imposing itself the PKK also made progress by spilling enormous amounts citizens' blood. Violence is a precondition of Leninism, without which it cannot exist. Therefore, since they wanted to establish a communist state in Southeast Turkey, the alleged organization Ergenekon began stepping up its unsolved killings. Hundreds of thousands of our people were martyred and the killers never caught. Many of our members of Parliament and ministers as well. These traditions have rather come to a stop recently, if you notice. They are unable to perpetrate so many unsolved killings now. Only that attack on our troops in Tokat, in which our soldiers were martyred was planned by the alleged Ergenekon organization. But apart from that there has been a huge decrease in unsolved killings of civilians. Before that, they were martyring many of our citizens during every week. That has now come to an end. But we must not be complacent and say it has come to an end for good; we have to press on until the alleged organization Ergenekon is totally eradicated. It is as if we have cut the snake's tail off, but the head is still there. The head of snake is in press, certain professors in universities constitute the brain of the alleged organization Ergenekon. There are university professors and even some medical doctors. There are professors of medicine, people aged 70 or 80, among the secret brains behind the alleged organization Ergenekon, such psychopathic types. These people avoid notice. They are also organized within the judiciary. Ninety percent or so are still in the judiciary, or 90-95%. They still exist in the police, but they have been frightened off. They are much quieter at the moment, they have calmed down. But in case of a drawback, they are in a position that can easily reveal those again. We need to press on to the end, and the public must fully support the government over this issue. They must support the state by providing information, by giving tip-offs. What does it say?
OKTAR BABUNA: Those are all taking place in the media. Judges came to meetings held at the Kent Hotel. Mustafa Balbay stated in his statement in the court that 20 or so members of the Supreme Court and the Council of State attended the 'Tolerant Society' group meetings at the Kent Hotel.
ADNAN OKTAR: Twenty Supreme Court members. That is such a grave situation. It is unclear who they are. They must all be investigated, analyzed and brought out into the open. If there are any criminal offenses involved they must be investigated and punished. Therefore, a policy of silence won't work. I have noticed a stagnation in this issue, I mean I notice that things are rather quieter than they were before. Of course I have great respect for our prosecutors. If there's something they know of, then there is no problem. But of course, it is very important for our citizens and our nation to give moral support on this issue.
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