PRESENTER: One of our viewers has said that it is related how the more Hazrat Mahdi (as) was exposed to the oppression and cruelty of the antichrist, the better he realized that this was indeed the antichrist. 

ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, that is in the hadith.

PRESENTER: Yes. They say, "Are we to understand from this statement that the alleged Ergenekon organization is emerging further into the daylight every day since it is an institution of the antichrist established to oppose the system of Hazrat Mahdi (as)?"  

ADNAN OKTAR: People will better understand the intensity of the measures taken against the system of Hazrat Mahdi (as). The only reason for the rivers of blood spilled in Iraq, the only reason for the American invasion, in their terms, is the risk of Hazrat Mahdi (as) appearing. They misunderstand Hazrat Mahdi (as) and have been seized by a huge terror. They imagine he will spill a lot of blood. Yet Hazrat Mahdi (as) will not shed a drop of blood. They were unable to find a Mahdi there, and America is now withdrawing. I have already spoken about Afghanistan. The reason for the occupation is a precautionary measure against the appearance of Hazrat Mahdi (as). Because the accounts say he will come with black banners. Our Prophet (saas) says "Woe to Taliqan." Taliqan means Afghanistan. He says that Taliqan will be occupied in the time of Hazrat Mahdi (as). Our Prophet (saas) knew there would be such a fear, and said so, that people would feel such concerns.