ADNAN OKTAR: Of course they are trying to unravel Hazrat Khidr (as), so let me give them one more piece of information.

ALTUG BERKER: That would be very good, there are people who are very curious.

ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, insha'Allah. Hazrat Khidr (as) has a responsibility to neutralize people, or objects –such as a building, or maybe a region or piece of land– he thinks may harm Islam in the future. And since he constantly enters time and leaves it again, it is impossible to identify Hazrat Khidr (as) as he goes about his work. For example, he performs a duty here, and then he suddenly steps outside time and space and disappears. He looks like an ordinary citizen and human being. You cannot tell the difference. He does his work and departs. That is why irreligious masons fear Hazrat Khidr (as) in the same way they do Allah or even more intensely, Allah is beyond this! Hazrat Khidr (as) has inflicted great hurt on them. Since they cannot believe, since they cannot comprehend the meaning of Hazrat Khidr (as), of what he is... Because they are in contact with satan. They cannot understand this force that oppresses satan. They are just terrified and in a state of panic.

Look, for example, satan was literally terrified in Turkey in '99, and his followers were defeated. They know what happened. They will speak of it themselves when the time comes. The marvels and incomprehensible phenomena they saw; incomprehensible to them, though perfectly comprehensible to us. That is all I can say. Let me repeat, and we can see this from the expression in the Qur'an, that if Hazrat Khidr (as) wishes he can put an object out of use. Let us imagine a ship, he can make that out of use. Or a building, he can make a building out of use. Or he can make a person inoperative. Let me explain it this way. If he thinks one will harm Islam and the religion in the future, if he sees something to that effect in that person, then he will act through revelation and do that.

Therefore, Hazrat Khidr (as) is a force opposed to the opponents of Hazrat Mahdi (as). He is a force that stops Hazrat Mahdi's (as) enemies. And he is a force that is seen and then disappears. That is one of the reasons for Hazrat Mahdi's (as) success. Hazrat Khidr (as) is an entity that assists Hazrat Mahdi (as). And he is also an entity that helps Prophet Jesus (pbuh). He undertakes roles in institution of states and in the collapse of states. Anyone looking at the story of Hazrat Khidr (as) can see this. Allah says, "Those cities: We destroyed them when they did wrong and fixed an appointment time for their destruction." (Surat Al-Kahf, 59) This meeting is between Hazrat Khidr (as) and the representatives of that time, I mean Rijalu-l-ghaib ("Hidden men").

And what they call Agartha… They do not hold their meeting in the buildings we are familiar with. The underground is also location for them, layers of the earth. There are underground caves for them. Because they have the attribute of penetrating matter. They can pass through matter and walls. Just like the jinn. The jinn can also do that. The jinn also travel through subterranean caves. That is what they refer to as Agartha; in other words, that is the life in subterranean caves, and the assemblies held there. Then there is their Shambhala, that is the satan. And the hordes of the satan. That is the system of the dajjal, those hordes of Shambhala. What people refer to as the death of the dajjal is actually satan. It appears in human form, and people think he is human, and it is he who is killed. In other words, his system of ideology is totally destroyed. He normally appears in the form of a blind, wretched and hideous person.

For example, they call its forebear something like Lucifer. Atheist masons say that Darwin learned all his teachings from Lucifer. I can bring the reference and show it to you. They say it is Lucifer who directed him, down to the finest details. They say it was Lucifer that told him about Darwinism and enabled him to do his work on these subjects. His grandfather, Erasmus Darwin, was also a mason, and so was he. I have the certificate of them both. They were atheist masons. That is why satan is at the head of them all. Satan assumes human form, and that is the entity known as the dajjal. And he has his own team, an underground horde that is called the Shambhala. But that has been defeated in this century, and they are in wretched condition. In other words, the thing known as Agartha is the team of Hazrat Khidr (as). And thus that of the Mahdi (as). They have been defeated.

Now, this defeat will be seen quite clearly and openly from 2012 on. This person says the same. He says, "there will be a sudden development in 2013." He is repeating just what I said. The same language. And Fatih Altayli was hanging on every word in admiration. He pretends not to be impressed, but Fatih Altayli is in fact enormously affected. This is the subject he thinks about day and night. Therefore, the people, the horde of the dajjal, the horde of the Shambhala, or the horde of the satan, are currently in a dire situation. They were not expecting such a bolt from the blue. Look, the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) is doing his duty in great valour, and they are unable to stop him. Hazrat Mahdi (as) is also at work, and they cannot stop him. That is the real name of that defeat. And Islam and Muslims are engaged in a mighty offensive at the moment.

Agartha is the institution that the alleged organization Ergenekon is most afraid of. In actual fact, the name of the horde of that alleged organization Ergenekon is "Shambhala." These were built up underground. Their satans are in caves beneath the ground. They summon them and obtain information from them, and they act accordingly. Look, they received the order to kill 3 million Muslims from satan. They wrote that list, and the ground swallowed it up. Let me say that only; the ground swallowed that list up, and it no longer exists. And they were terrified at this. It is under the ground. They themselves know this. If you ask their chiefs, they know this, insha'Allah.

They realized they were dealing with an extraordinary phenomenon. And that is the reason for their current wretched, miserable state. They are literally in a state of panic. In other words, satan betrayed them. Satan has his own troubles now, and is looking for somewhere to hide. The death of satan is to happen for the first time in the End Times. Look at the hadith and you will see they refer to the death of satan, in the End Times, in the time of Hazrat Mahdi (as). And this has come about. Satan cannot get over with it.