ADNAN OKTAR: Some nonsensicals talk about cutting Jews and Christians to bit, saying they are a bunch of profanes and they should attack them. Whenever these are mentioned, they regard it as a sign of piety. When I talk about the policy in the time of our Prophet (saas) they regard this as making concessions with regard to the deen. But this is a huge perversion and totally wrong. We support exactly what the Rasulullah (saas) did. No more or less. The deen is founded on love and compassion and striving to be instrumental in people's salvation. Preaching and advice is part of the deen. There is no aggressive language that will turn people away from the deen or keep people from coming anywhere near Islam. There is therefore no need for them to go such nonsensical extremes to make themselves popular. Whatever the Qur'an pronounces, that is how we act. Whatever the hadith say, that is what we do. The attitude to be adopted toward and the pronouncements concerning the People of the Book are set out clearly in the Qur'an. Not adopting them as guides means not taking them as rulers. In other words, don't make them governors or prime minister, and do not let yourselves be ruled according to their beliefs and faith. That is what it means. But it does not mean go out and wage war on them. If that were the case, why did the Companions marry women from the People of the Book of the time? They married Christian and Jewish women. A person tells his wife all nice things, doesn't he? He compliments her. When married, how does one call his wife? He doesn't call her "You profane!" when he speaks to her. He speaks kindly to her and she is one of the People of the Book. And that is so with the People of the Book. So we should use an affectionate kind of attitude toward the People of the Book. Indeed, in that kind of loving climate they also become Muslims and begin living by Islam, insha'Allah. Yes, go on.

OKTAR BABUNA: Your attitude has been highly effective. There was a false perspective on their radio stations and the like, with your overseas connections, you were instrumental in putting that right, masha'Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: They regard aggression as a sign of piety. But whenever anything actually happens, these aggressive types dive under the table for cover. Their actions don't match their bullying words. Take Saddam. He bullied against America, but then hid underground like a mole.

OKTAR BABUNA: They pulled him out of a pit in the ground.

ADNAN OKTAR: Like a prairie dog. They pulled him out from underground. What happened to all that bravado? All those people in Iraq talking about killing and hanging suddenly disappeared in the country. Nobody was left. Those who incite the nation to oppress and encourage bloodshed and violence in that way will immediately start collaborating with the other side if anything happens, may Allah forbid, or spy out for them. I am talking about some people, of course. Surely I am talking about a group of them, I cannot include everyone in that. Or else they go and behave like grovelers, or they join the enemy and attack Muslims themselves. It is clear there is no need for such behavior. One must act according to the Qur'an. There can be no aggressive attitude toward a people with whom a peace treaty exists. There can be no violence. There needs to be a kind, respectful normal kind of language. Since, you have made a peace treaty, it means you are not at war, insha'Allah.

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes. Insha'Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, you may go on.

CIHAT GUNDOGDU: Whether it be Ottoman policies or the behavior adopted toward Christians and Jews in Ummayad times, they are all signs of Islamic moral values, insha'Allah. As you have said. And they all lived together in splendid well-being. They engaged in business and enjoyed peace and security.

ADNAN OKTAR: Masha'Allah.

CIHAT GUNDOGDU: In the same way, in Palestine during the 500 years of Ottoman rule, and these are statements by leading Jews themselves, they say they enjoyed peace and security for the very first time, insha'Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: Masha'Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: Look, marrying the People of the Book is lawful. You take your wife and have her with you. How does a man address his wife? Does he call her "You profane!" day and night? Is that at all acceptable?

CIHAT GUNDOGDU: Such a thing is impossible, insha'Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: They ask me, why we call them [Jews&Christians] our brothers. A man calls his wife darling, dear and nice words like that, doesn't he? When his wife, is from the People of the Book, in other words. You go and sit down at table with them.

CIHAT GUNDOGDU: Muslims can even build Christians' and Jews' places of worship, insha'Allah. If they have been damaged, they help restore them, insha'Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: There is a verse in the Qur'an about the situation of synagogues and churches. They were never attacked in the time of our Prophet (saas). There are absolute commands regarding that, insha'Allah. In other words, in essence, one has to intellectually struggle with love, compassion, knowledge and reason, and by dedicating oneself to Allah, insha'Allah.

CIHAT GUNDOGDU: Insha'Allah.

PRESENTER: Insha'Allah.