PKK is a terrorist, communist, Leninists organization, we need to free our Kurdish brothers in the southeast from this suppression and embrace them within the morality of religion

From Mr. Adnan Oktar's live interview on Kral Karadeniz TV and Kanal 35 TV, 20 September 2009

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ADNAN OKTAR: Of course, those high plateaus of Diyarbakir, those beauties, the good nature, respect and kindness of those people all come to mind. Allah permitting, I will visit our provinces one by one in the future, Insha’Allah.

The first move from Armenia in Karabagh. What did I tell you? With the inspiration and permission of Almighty Allah I said that our borders with Armenia would be opened up, they would withdraw from Nagorny Karabagh and open up the Lachin corridor, didn’t I? The Armenians have their revenge monuments, and I said they would be done away with that. Things are happening just as I said.

PRESENTER: Things are heading that way in Syria, too.

ADNAN OKTAR: What did I tell you? I said that Syria would unite with Turkey, didn’t I? That is where things are headed.

OKTAR BABUNA: Visas have been done away with, and unification is on its way.

ADNAN OKTAR: Of course, visas first and then passports. Ahmet Davutoglu, masha’Allah, is an immaculate Muslim and Turk. He has done very well, our foreign minister. Recep Tayyip Erdogan is also working hard on the subject, masha’Allah. But the initiatives and democratization in the southeast are by no means sufficient. I can tell you that. But democratization is a super happening, really great.

PRESENTER: What do you think we should do to resolve all the problems in the region? They say there should be no military operations in the region. But we are still suffering casualties in the region and losing martyrs. Yes, the efforts for peace are continuing, but there is a reality experienced there. Our young men and martyrs are there, our martyred brothers. What needs to be done to stop the bloodshed and find the best moderate solution?

ADNAN OKTAR: First, the military is carrying out operations means that the military is defending themselves and the nation. They come and attack our military with guns and bombs, and the troops protect themselves. If it is an operation, of course they will conduct operations. Is there any logic behind those questions on whether they should carry out operations or not? Of course they must insha’Allah, as how else can they defend themselves? These people attack you with guns, so what are they meant to do? But the cement that binds the region and all of Turkey together is religion. That is, the unity of religion. Thanks be to Allah, we are all Turkish. In terms of language, it looks like the whole region will eventually end up speaking Kurdish. They are determined over that and are going to spread it. Allah knows the truth. That means that they are dividing the language and the nation. They say they are Kurdish, and that is true. But there are Laz people in the country, too, however, we are all Turkish in my eyes insha’Allah. Because everyone living inside Turkey’s borders and who says he is a Turk, is in fact Turkish and I regard them as my blood brother. Many of my friends, brothers are Kurds, and Kurds are the nicest people in the world. I am proud of them all. So what we are to aim at is a spiritual union, a religious union. Look, there is an alliance when it comes to religion. But these people are now abolishing religion. They say they reject religion and religious holidays. They say they have their own Kurdish holidays and that they only recognize those. They say they recognize no religious holidays and will not celebrate them. Go there and you will see they do not mark them. For example we celebrate those holidays, but they do not. This is grave. Do away with religion and there is nothing left. When he has a separate religion, a different language and a separate nation, then he asks to leave and nobody can object to that easily at that time. This is extremely dangerous. It is religion that binds people together. The people in the region need to be told extensively about religious moral values, love, affection, compassion, friendship and brotherhood, as a national policy. Can the state do that? Of course, the state cannot do it because of its laic nature. So who will do it? Non-governmental organizations will do it. We will do it, you will do it. What needs to be done to make this possible? The way ahead of them needs to be cleared of obstructions. I mean, you cannot go forward if the road is blocked, can you?

PRESENTER: That is true.

ADNAN OKTAR: You must clear the road so they can progress. For one thing, our Kurdish brothers need to be shown a deep love and affection. They have been deeply offended. The alleged Ergenekon organization has ruined them all. They burned them in lime pits and martyred them in unsolved killings. They took innocent young Kurdish boys from their homes, as well as young Kurdish girls, and told them to confess their links to the PKK. When they denied any knowledge of it and even swore they had no connection to it, they said they were informed about their relation to the PKK and that’s it. Then they were told to kneel down, and got a bullet in the head and were taken away and thrown into lime pits. That is terrible ruthlessness and immorality. Who are they? If someone commits a crime the state has its prosecutors, police and judges. They will be convicted in the courts and serve whatever sentence is handed down. And then they will be released after their service as citizens. How dare you kill and martyr them? What right have you to kill them? Some of these people were really oppressed and offended there. We now need to embrace them to our bosoms. Handing out cake, chocolate and footballs is not enough to redeem the position. It has gone too far to be redeemed by chocolate.

They tell the terrorists up in the mountains to come down and they will find them spouses and jobs. Do they think the man is hiding out up in the mountains because he cannot find a wife and get married? Does he go up there because he cannot find a job? Why should someone be prepared to risk his life? That is how he has been trained. They have made a communist out of him, a Stalinist. He has received Darwinist, materialist education and has been convinced that terror is necessary. He has been taught that it is legitimate to attack the police and the state. That is how he has been educated. What is the point of saying you will give him chocolate, cake or footballs? That is really odd, you cannot get anywhere like that. That will just make them angrier or more aggressive. We need to rebuild the love, affection, compassion and honor that have been broken in them and provide a very powerful religious education, teaching of moral values and build bonds of love. This is of course one of the things that will happen in the time of Hazrat Mahdi (as). With his spiritual presence, Hazrat Mahdi (as) will have an impact on the entire region, by Allah’s leave. But since we are the vanguard of Hazrat Mahdi (as) we have to work with all our might and main to prepare and ease the foundations, to prepare causes and opportunities.

Now, they are watching us on TV channels in southeast Anatolia. Why, because those dear people like me very much, because they know that I love them greatly. They would not listen to anyone else with a different set of mind. Why do they love me so dear? Because I truly love them, and I regard them as sacred beings created by Allah. Insha’Allah, when all this corruption comes to an end we will hold barbecues with them in the mountains and the Kurdish tents of Diyarbakir, Siirt and Urfa. They will play their music and we will all have a lovely time, insha’Allah. They can now rest easy, their saviour is imminent. I had mentioned this before, we will tell PKK to lay down their arms and turn themselves in within 12 hours and it will all be over with. In twelve hours, by Allah’s leave, and as the vanguard of Hazrat Mahdi (as) we will ask them kindly. But there is sure an irony with the modern wording behind this request. This word irony, or others such as concept and real economy... They do not use the Turkish words, so how can we deal with people if we keep having to use a dictionary? Let them talk real Turkish. In summmary, that is the kind of beautiful climate we are moving toward...

2010-04-22 10:49:35

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