Mr. Adnan Oktar's views on Dabbat al-Ardh from his live interview on 30 August 2009

Kanal 35 – Kral Karadeniz

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PRESENTER: The subject of the Dabbat al-Ardh has attracted unbelievable interest. On the program Sansursuz Mr. Oktar said the Dabbat al-Ardh was computers. That has again made an impact on the agenda.

OKTAR BABUNA: The raw material of the micro processors that constitute computers’ brains is silicon, the main element in soil. The silicon used in the manufacture of micro processors is obtained directly from sandy soil with quartz being separated from the sand and refined. In summary, the first step in the production of micro processors is the breaking down of sandy soil. To put it another way, soil is the main element in micro processors, the brain of computer technology. That is why the San Jose Valley in southern California, home to the largest plants involved in the global production of computer processors, has been given the name Silicon Valley. Advanced computer technology companies and micro processor manufacturers such as Intel, Misco, Apple, Google, HP, Oracle, ATI and Macstore have their headquarters in and came from Silicon Valley. The way that verse 27 of Surat an-Naml that contains the verse about the Dabbat al-Ardh refers to the valley of the ants is highly significant, masha’Allah.

Micro processors are generally about the size of an ant. Processors also have legs like ants and other creatures such as centipedes. Masha’Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: Look, can you zoom in? We can see all the parts, can’t we? These components make the whole story perfectly clear. Let us stress those two parts in particular.

OKTAR BABUNA: They have feet.

ADNAN OKTAR: Look what it says. It resembles an ant. One account from Ibn Abbas (Portents of Doomsday, Allama Muhammad ibn Rasul Al-Husseini Al-Barzanji of Medina, Pamuk Press, p. 276), says the Dabbat al-Ardh will be hairy and have a beak. In other words, it indicates those wires in its components. Thin, very fine, hair-like wires. The part we are adding now resembles a beak, insha’Allah. The plastic literally resembles a beak. The animal’s beak is like plastic. It reminds one of mica. The fine wires are referred to in the same way. “Nobody will be able to catch it,” it says. “And nobody who flees can escape.” How did we interpret that, so far as you recall...?

OKTAR BABUNA: There is no chance of any human being matching the speed of a computer, and everyone has a computer these days.

ADNAN OKTAR: It says that those who flee will be unable to escape. There are normally those who are unwilling to listen to what Muslims have to say, but since the computer has entered people’s homes they are unable to escape. Once you are in they will inevitably welcome you. It says it may be colored. Colors of all kinds exist in the Dabbat al-Ardh. Are there colors of all kinds?

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes, there are.

ADNAN OKTAR: There are colors of all kinds, aren’t there? It will have an eye that sees all things, it says, and will perceive sounds perfectly. It says its eye will be like a hog’s eye. It resembles a pig’s eye, doesn’t it? It says it is like a pig’s eye. It says its ear is like an elephant’s ear. Lift it up and let me see the computer’s foot. Is that not like an elephant’s ear?

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes.

ADNAN OKTAR: OK, isn’t it?

CIHAT GUNDOGDU: True, insha’Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: Look, its ear is like an elephant’s ear. If I speak it can hear me from way over there.

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes, it can hear all sounds.

ADNAN OKTAR: The hadith speaks of it being wide in range like an elephant’s ear, hearing and perceiving everywhere. That is set out in the hadith, like the staff of the Prophet Musa (as). Is it used in proving creation, like the Prophet Musa’s (as) staff?

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes, it is used, insha’Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: It is used, isn’t it? Do people who log on to the Internet learn about Darwin’s lies and nonsense?

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes, they do.

ADNAN OKTAR: They do. Did the Prophet Musa (as) demolish the Darwinists of the time when he cast his staff down?

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes, he did.

ADNAN OKTAR: Did he prove creation?

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes.

ADNAN OKTAR: He threw his staff down and fully proved creation.

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes, insha’Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, it says that he will stamp believers and unbelievers. In other words, we will encounter the seal of the Prophet (saas) when we turn it [our computer] on. We will encounter Allah, Rasul (Messenger) and Muhammad, insha’Allah. We will meet them. Do we encounter them now?

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes, we do.

ADNAN OKTAR: We do. All right.

OKTAR BABUNA: Masha’Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: Look, he says that a Muslim will add light to light. When he stamps a believer’s face it will become very radiant. When you turn your computer on and learn about Allah and the Book, the Qur’an, do you feel a sense of well-being?

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes, alhamdulillah.

ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, the believer’s face is illuminated, is it not?

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes, masha’Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: And when he stamps the unbeliever’s face it will turn pitch black. Are the irreligious and atheists, some of them, made unhappy and hurt when they encounter the seal of our Prophet (saas)?

OKTAR BABUNA: They are.

ADNAN OKTAR: Why do people’s faces turn dark? Their blood pressure goes up. They are uneasy and their blood pressure goes up, and what happens? They turn purple, don’t they?

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes.

ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, it notes how it will be extraordinarily fast. It will move like a star across the Earth, and nobody who follows it will be able to catch it. Everywhere in the world at an inconceivable speed...

OKTAR BABUNA: In seconds.

ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, it will spread.

PRESENTER: All right, so the Dabbat al-Ardh is the computer. Why does your interpretation upset some people so much, and why have various commentators been writing about the Dabbat al-Ardh in recent weeks?

ADNAN OKTAR: They have been shocked, not upset. They have been amazed, but why should they be upset?

PRESENTER: There has been a lot written about the Dabbat al-Ardh, particularly in that section of the press that is hostile to you.

ADNAN OKTAR: I have not seen it. I just hear about it second hand.

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes.

ADNAN OKTAR: They have not come out against it.

OKTAR BABUNA: Noone has come out against it.

ADNAN OKTAR: Everyone will hear the voice of the Dabbat al-Ardh. Look, it will appear. It will cry out three times with a voice everyone will hear between the Earth and sky. Is it heard everywhere? In America, in Russia...? The Dabbat al-Ardh also prevails below ground, and in accounts it rules the in Earth and sky. The hadith say there will be no homes it does not enter. It says it will enter every home. Does it enter every home?

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes, it does.

PRESENTER: It enters every home, and even several times at once. There is a computer in every room.

CIHAT GUNDOGDU: It reaches everywhere in a matter of seconds.

PRESENTER: Yes, it reaches everywhere.

ADNAN OKTAR: It says that there is the mark of the liar between the eyes of all hypocrites and spreaders of falsehoods. (Portents of Doomsday, Allama Muhammad ibn Rasul Al-Husseini Al-Barzanji of Medina, Pamuk Press, p. 277) Do we respond by way of the Internet to various frauds who pretend to be devout believers, who lie and who misrepresent Islam?

OKTAR BABUNA: We do.

ADNAN OKTAR: Do other devout hodjas give responses, as well? Do they stamp the mark of the liar?

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes.

ADNAN OKTAR: Because they lie. Now let us assume that there is a description in the Qur’an and the hadith. But they say there is none, or else they distort it. Look, he says they will have the mark of the liar upon them. How? Through the computer, and the Internet. He says it will slay satan. Is the Internet not killing the system of the antichrist (dajjal), Darwinism and materialism? Does the information in computers not demolish these people and their ideas when they are confronted by it, and does it not slay the satan within them?

OKTAR BABUNA: Of course.

ADNAN OKTAR: Does it slay satanic thinking? Yes, it does. He says it will be able to reach anywhere at great speed. He says it will be able to travel three days’ of distance with a single step. You just press the key and there you are, right where you want to be.

PRESENTER: Yes.

CIHAT GUNDOGDU: You can reach America in a few seconds.

ADNAN OKTAR: The information on the Internet. Look what it says. Everything begins with sand. Sand, and particularly quartz. It says that silicon, the main element in the manufacture of semi-conductors, contains high levels of dioxide. The information on the Internet. In the Qur’an, Almighty Allah speaks of an entity “from the earth which will speak to them.” (Surat an-Naml, 82). What is there in the earth? Copper, cobalt, zinc, aluminum, silicon, iron and the rest. And what is this made of?

OKTAR BABUNA: Of all these things you have listed, masha’Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: Of these. It says it speaks to people. Does it explain that?

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes.

ADNAN OKTAR: It is described as a film, in text and with words, isn’t it? And every color is in it.

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes.

ADNAN OKTAR: It says it will appear when the religion is weakened, when the religion is under attack. We are told it will appear in the End Times. Have the End Times begun? Yes, they have.

OKTAR BABUNA: Yes.

ADNAN OKTAR: We can see that it will help Hazrat Mahdi (as). It is the sword of Hazrat Mahdi (as). And the sword of the Prophet ‘Isa (as). We see that from other accounts, too. They say that the Prophet ‘Isa (as) will look and see the whole world. Hazrat Mahdi (as) will look at his hand and see all his followers, everyone. We are told that his followers will look and see Hazrat Mahdi (as) and everywhere. Is it not the same? Because mobile phones which you can see the person you are talking to have been manufactured, as you know, and one can see everywhere and everyone in the world. People can see one another as they talk. Has this happened?

OKTAR BABUNA: It has.

ADNAN OKTAR: It has come about.

CIHAT GUNDOGDU: And the coming of Hazrat Mahdi (as) was awaited in 1400 [Islamic calendar]. That is how it appears in the accounts. The computer also appeared in the 1980s, in the beginning of the 1400s.

ADNAN OKTAR: Masha’Allah, masha’Allah. At a time when people flee the religion and avoid hearing about it.

PRESENTER: It will come.

ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, the coming of the Dabbat al-Ardh is described.

PRESENTER: They avoid listening, but at the end of the day they will be forced to listen.

ADNAN OKTAR: Can you find from the Qur’an where the Dabbat al-Ardh is?

OKTAR BABUNA: In verse 82 of Surat an-Naml:

“When the Word is justly carried out against them, We will produce a beast from the earth which will speak to them. Truly mankind had no certainty about Our signs.”

ADNAN OKTAR: … A huge power will arise when the two faiths join together. The result will be a single Islam. Thus there will be nobody in the world who does not believe. That is the death of satan. There is the death of satan in the End Times. It says the Dabbat al-Ardh will slay satan. He will die through the efforts of Hazrat Mahdi (as) and the Prophet ‘Isa (as). It will be by means of the Dabbat al-Ardh. The Dabbat al-Ardh will not do this on its own. The Dabbat al-Ardh will only do it in its capacity of helper.

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