ADNAN OKTAR:This is because they do not know Islam, and the way they learn about Islam is based on what they hear from some typical types who hang, cut, destruct and dismantle others. And when those types talk, they make nonsense explanations, religious matters are beyond this, and even much more drastic than Christians. Their explanations are more abnormally idolatrous, and more anomalous and fantastic.

PRESENTER 2: What will their conditions be in the Hereafter? They think that they live religion in the best way possible, but they also bring about such things. They make people depart from religion. How would this be judged in the Hereafter?

ADNAN OKTAR: Allah reveals in the Quran that they know about their abnormal behaviors in their conscience. For example, he is talking and he knows that he is talking nonsense, and he says, “You may have difficulty in believing this, but you have to do so.” I apologize for the expression but these people have a sick and cunning character in their inner lives. They have a weasel character. It is not like what is presumed. They are totally different among themselves. My knowledge on this is based both on sight, I have directly ascertained this through observation, and on firm information. They have such a state of mind. He doesn’t talk because he believes in it. If you ask these from people who are very close to him, you would see that he is in a very different state of mind. For example, he says “Let’s meet in the private.” When the person goes to meet in private, he sees a completely different person in front of him. In reality, these people are not fools at all, they are rascal of the unbelievers. But they have made themselves known this way, in truth they havehatred for religion in their subconscious.

PRESENTER 1: They have a target for making people faithlessness, don’t they? They have an effort for this.

ADNAN OKTAR: But he reflects his anger resulting from lack of faith, on people. He says, “I was raised up with abnormal beliefs.” And, “I could not believe in this. So, I will also tell you and make you faithless as well. If I came to be like this, then you should be this way, too”, he says. He really turns others into such a way.

PRESENTER 2: But of course he does this by showing himself as a believer.

ADNAN OKTAR: Of course. Otherwise, he sees the irrationality, abnormality of what he speaks of and how these conflict with the Qur’an. He should be out of his mind not to see that. It is impossible that he doesn’t know.