Adnan Oktar's Live Interview on Cay Tv, 8 April 2009
ADNAN OKTAR:Matter does exist on the outside, but we see the image of matter. Even if people tried, they could not see the matter on the outside, because if the nucleus is here, the electrons are in Avcılar [in Istanbul] for instance. That is why it is impossible for matter to be seen as a whole. It has a transparent appearance. We perceive it in this way, and it stems from the way it enters our eyes. Otherwise, matter would normally be invisible due to its transparency. There is no such thing as color, which forms because that is how our brains interpret the waves emanating from those objects. There is no red, blue or green on the outside. All scientists themselves say that, that there is no such thing on the outside. There is no sound and no light on the outside. There is no question of the Sun being very bright and our eyes seeing it. The Sun is in fact a pitch black. Our brain interprets the waves emanating from it as light. That is how Allah has created, and it is a great miracle. There is not a single sound on the outside. Similar to how radio waves on the outside turn into sound only when they enter a radio. There are also television waves, but nobody sees the image on the outside or hears the sound. All channels are currently broadcasting and the air is full, but we see and hear nothing. How is that? They only become sound when they enter a television device. Our bodies are like such a device. The image comes and it becomes an image like television. Sound comes. The electricity of sound arrives, and the brain converts that electricity into sound. Then the universe forms, in a very tiny space, a space no bigger than a lentil. We experience this whole world there. It is a great miracle how people experiencing this do not submit to and believe in Allah and are unable to see this artistry He creates in the End Times.
All technical devices and everything are created in the brain. This cup, for instance, is created inside the brain. I mean, the cup does exist on the outside, but as a transparent and thus invisible entity. People sit down and talk about factories and say it is made in a factory. Transparent, light-free matter exists on the outside. Look, it is transparent and has no light. And there is no color on the outside. We see this in our brains, it is us that become illuminated and visible. The factory does not color it, Allah does. Allah makes things capable of being heard, in our brains. Their structures on the outside are of no use to them. Because they are transparent and colorless. Allah miraculously creates an infinitely wide and vast universe in our brains. He also creates love of Himself in our brains, and fear of Him. Man is a most wondrous entity. Indeed, I remember Allah saying in one holy hadith that He is too vast to fit into the earth and sky, but that He fits into the hearts of believers. This in effect means that “I create everything inside you; there is a world on the outside, but I create the reality thereof inside you.” But this is for people of deep reflection and understanding, of course. Someone who looks at things superficially who sits down and eats meatballs and wipes his mouth with the back of his hand cannot grasp it, of course. But it is something that makes the deep thinker tremble. In other words, a person who comprehends it will be unable to stand, will tremble and fall down in prostration out of fear of Allah and say to Him, “La Ilahe Ilallah Muhammeden Rasulullah.(There is no deity but Allah and Muhammad (May Allah bless him and grant him peace) is the Messenger of Allah).” Anyone grasping this fact will believe 100%. But there may be people who are unaware and walk around with their mouths out of ignorance. Such people will always exist, but the time will come when Allah manifests His title of the Hadi to everyone, and will show them this truth, insha’Allah.
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