ADNAN OKTAR:Two sides generally regard the same thing as reasonable, but nations can fall out over a minor detail. For example, Israel says, “We want to live there in peace. We want to be sure there will be no attacks. We want to live in peace, with our heads at ease.” They also say, “The Palestinians can live there, too.” But satanic forces allow no peace to either Muslims or Jews. They are trying to set the two sides against one another. And there is an unnecessary tension. Insha’Allah, this will come to an end under the system of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh). Our Jewish brothers should now prepare a surprise for these approaching ships. They should give them a beautiful and warm, loving welcome. That will shatter satan and resolve the issue completely.

Let them go on board and say, “Salamun alaykum.” And they will reply, “Wa Alayna alaykum salam wa rahmatullahi.” “Let’s have a look and see what you have” they will say. “OK, we’ve looked. Now let us go and make these blessed people happy.” That is it. Because Palestine is a question that is causing global tensions. People there are really wretched and oppressed. Of course we want security for Israel. They must live in peace. It is their old motherland. It has been their home for thousands of years. We are not uneasy at their presence there. Let them live in peace and prosperity. May Allah bestow peace and prosperity till the Day of Judgment, insha’Allah. The Torah describes the coming of the King Messiah, Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh), at great length. They are in the age of the King Messiah, Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh). What a joy for them and us, Muslims, insha’Allah. But that is also marvelous, of course. I have said there will be events of this kind one after the other. I said, “There will be marvelous occurrences in the days ahead.” But I also said, “Islamic zeal will flare up.” I said the pressure on Muslims would grow. But, insha’Allah, there will be no such thing there.

ADNAN OKTAR:I have said this many times over. It is very simple. There is nothing incomprehensible about it. What needs to be done is this; “Salamun alaykum. Welcome. Very good. We are a state, and we know that you do good works. But every state has its own customs procedures, and it examines what comes in for security purposes. We also want to look, just in case, for the security of our people and nation, just so we can relax.” And you say: “Go ahead. Look. You can search anywhere you like.”  

PRESENTER:Why does Israel regard, or want to regard, those aid ships as a bad thing?

ADNAN OKTAR:I imagine it thinks like this; even if there are no arms on the first wave of boats, there may be weapons and equipment on the next. They may have thought they had to nip it in the bud. But there were 600-700 people on them, including writers and artists. Do you really think that so many people would knowingly carry weapons and bombs, before the eyes of the whole world, knowing this would really work against them? Obviously not.

But we feel sorry for the Palestinians, and affection for them. Egypt has also cut them off. Children are going hungry and are sick. But we do not want Israel to suffer, either. Why should they have to be afraid? They can check to see if weapons are going in, what is going in. In addition, when they see there are no weapons or equipment going in, they will be able to relax. But they apparently do not want these provisions to fall into the hands of Hamas. Fine. But they want it to be handed out to the people, don’t they? OK, send an official along, or as many as you like, and watch it being handed out to the people. Or it can be handed out on a live broadcast. That would be all right. Don’t they have live broadcasts there? They must have cameras on the boats. OK, they can unload their live broadcast van. They can show it being handed out to the public live. They can show the people it is given to. There used to be that classical, aggressive hawkish Israeli policy there before. That is how it was in my childhood. But they have really changed now, and changed very quickly. It may be a tradition left over from that. And there is an element of justification there. They should solve the matter this way. But imposition is not pleasant. That would be very, very shameful, wouldn’t it? At the end of the day, Palestinian children are going to be made happy. Toys and things are being sent to them. The most innocent items. There is no reason for tension in that.

PRESENTER:Could they have adopted such a defensive policy because the agreements with various bodies saying, “We want to be involved in such aid” are unreliable?

ADNAN OKTAR:I think that every state would or will normally take such precautions. But they should not be exaggerated once the checks have been done. It’s charity after all. I think aid can come from any country.

PRESENTER:Yes. At the end of the day, they need the aid. The coming of the aid should make them happy. They should not be employing such a defensive policy. What might happen in that case if an agreement is not reached with the bodies involved? I am asking because I cannot comprehend the logic.

ADNAN OKTAR:Israel used to have this kind of hawkish policy. They used to enforce strict discipline. “We don’t want anything, and that is the end of it.” If you ask what the logic was, there was no logical structure. There was a logic, of course, but their language was very harsh. But they have begun following a softer policy in recent years. They are much calmer. I think the influence of the Sanhedrin is in that, the influence of devout Jews. In my view, the Israeli government should listen to the Sanhedrin. I know how pure those people are. I have seen it with my own eyes and met with them here. A rational approach is needed. We need a path of reason, not conflict over the smallest detail. They should put an end to the matter by saying: “What you say is right, but what I say is also right. Let us ally ourselves together on matters where we are in the right.” I think Israeli boats are following the ships, aren’t they?

ALTUĞ BERKER:Yes.

ADNAN OKTAR:So there is close contact at the moment. 

ALTUĞ BERKER:They are approaching. The Israeli boats are approaching those ships.

ADNAN OKTAR:They are approaching.

PRESENTER:They will probably be there in 2 hours.

ADNAN OKTAR:In my view, insha’Allah, nothing will happen. It would be good for foreign powers to provide guarantees. What countries? Our brothers are from Turkey. And from Greece. The governments concerned could also give Israel guarantees.

PRESENTER:Yes, if they give them security as well.

ADNAN OKTAR:Of course. That would be most excellent. Insha’Allah.

PRESENTER:What do you think? Could something different like Israel is expecting actually be found? It will not come from our boats, we guarantee that. As does Greece. Could there be anything on the other boats?

ADNAN OKTAR:No. But they may be concerned things will be carried on future trips. They may be worried that one route will be opened up, and a new method, and that aid will be sent with the best of intentions, but that terror groups will start using it to carry weapons. But is that at all possible? Goods enter Turkey every day through customs posts. So should we not allow anything into Turkey? It comes in from Russia and Syria and Iraq. Those places are full of PKK terrorists. We do not say: “These people may be sending in guns and equipment by lorry. So we are going to close the borders.” That is impossible. We check them out. “Carry on,” we say. This is the same. That’s how it should be. Otherwise life will be paralyzed. I imagine that is how they will also think, insha’Allah.