Excerpt from Mr. Adnan Oktar's live interview at Kocaeli TV on June 11th, 2010
ADNAN OKTAR:Ertugrul wrote a letter. The last part attracted my attention: "IHH is hundred percent right." he says. This is the ending but I have not read the entire letter. Masha'Allah. Its chairman attends our iftar dinners. He is a very modest, mild person who has devoted himself to Allah and takes risks, encounters difficult circumstances in his struggle on the path of Allah. He is one of our brothers of great fortitude in disregard of his personal convenience. He delights the poor and needy. I have never seen him with a gun in his hand, nor carrying a bomb. And I have not heard of him killing a man or committing a theft. Yet, I know that he helps everyone, he shows love for all, he goes right into the most risky and inflicted places, and he goes right into battle fields coming to the aid of wounded, sick, and ones in need. I stand surety for him.
Nobody has the right to claim these people to be terrorist or something. I know, if I say I stand surety for those, they should believe me. A terrorist goes and kills people, slaughters the innocent, bombs homes; these do not go and help others, feel compassion and mercy for people. IHH has been instrumental in feeding the poor and brought happiness to many impoverished people in destitute. It has been the means for their delight. They have activities for religious offerings and distribute sacrificial meat. They are involved in quite excellent undertakings.
"Salamun Alaykum wa Rahmetullahi wa Berekatuhu. My dear Hodja, I have seen you sad and quiet cross because of the new discussion that has been going on." Was I cross?
ALTUG BERKER: Astagfirullah.
ADNAN OKTAR: First of all I do not get saddened because saddness is unlawful. Being cross, well yes sometimes I do fall into a rage but that is dislike. I dislike the attitude, my rage would calm down instantly. I fall into rage for the Approval of Allah, I dislike something and it calms down when I see the right thing. I do not go and beat that person up or shout out loud when I fall into rage of course, but I take precautions, it increases my ambition, my fervor, my determination for saving. I mean it causes Adrenalin to be secreted in me insha'Allah. "I mean this situation about the IHH. As Almighty Allah says: (I seek refuge in Allah from the satan) "they were plotting and Allah was plotting" And yet they were unaware of this plot Almighty Allah sat up for them and they will fall into that insha'Allah. Again our Almighty Lord says: "Your Lord will soon give to you and you will be satisfied." I believe that Allah will remove your such worries." Yes he says "Allah will do away your worries and your uneasiness. And will remove your sadness. "Let us not say sadness to this but say that we are being vigilant, we are in a state of alert. Yes. "The troubles of the Muslim community are our troubles, insha'Allah we will solve them altogether. "Is Allah not enough for His servant?" Of course He is. With salam and prayers. Abdurrahim Fidan, from Mardin."
My heroic brother. Well this is a seperate letter.
"Salamun Alaykum."And Alaykum Salam. Oh, this friend of ours is a bit cross with me. "You say they should have asked for permission, why are you saying this?" he asks. Could this ever happen without permit? You mentioned about a relief foundation that admires our Fethullah Hodja, right?
ALTUĞ BERKER: Yes. I did mention about them a little while ago. The 'Kimse Yok Mu" (Is Anybody There) foundation.
ADNAN OKTAR:'Is anybody there?' yes. They say, "We are distributing goods." They go and ask for permit. Harshness is not the method to follow. If they say, "We will go there, accept no ifs and buts, and there is no need for permission, " that is not acceptable. Even if they come to Turkey and say they will distribute relief, the police will surely make a safety check. They need to look to see what there is, right? A few policemen and officials representing government would attend. That is very reasonable. What harm would be in this, besides why would it hurt to ask? What would they lose? The soldiers could come and inspect. It is much better so eventually nobody would bring up any claims or accusations right? Is this not much more secure? No one can bring up any accusations. You would be saying, "Welcome friend."
But there could be another way, international military forces could be invited, soldiers or officials. You would say, "Come, let us inspect together." A soldier of another country could come and look, for instance this would be a soldier of the United Nations. The United Nations forces may come and control, let the Israeli forces come too. They will look and see that there is only goods of relief. That will prevent each and all kinds of slanders, that is something reasonable, there is nothing wrong in this. To distribute these altogether is a much more better. This also would prevent all slanders. That would be very good.
"IHH chairman says, Palestinians need 2000 items of goods as relief. Israel only permits 75 items within these."He also adds "they degrade the nutrient content of the food delivered from Turkey which Israel distributes." He says, "They implemented silent genocide." As far as I understand they deliver goods with no nutritional value. Therefore, he says "People are not nourished well." He asks, "Do you know that genetics of Palestinians are destroyed?" How can I know about this. What does this mean, is there any such incident? Does our brother imply that they send spoilt food to damage their genetic makeup?
ALTUĞ BERKER: That could be so.
ADNAN OKTAR:"IHH did not give an immediate decision for an unplanned relief. As you have mentioned, IHH has tens of files related with this. Respectfully, your offended listener, Ertugrul," he says. Almighty Allah. "IHH is hundred percent right," he adds.
Now, "unplanned," yes it is of course, unplanned. It is unplanned to the effect that there may be counselling for such decisions. These men – it is not appropriate to make me explain this for the 30th time – could be called along with the United Nations forces. They can go and look and this will be much more safer. Because there are other relief organizations that do the same thing and they face no problems, then exactly a similar approach will be followed, that is it. Look, we have the model in our hand, right? The "Is Anybody There" foundation, see that they are doing this already, so if the same is applied, it is obvious they will have an outcome. This means the result will be productive.
But, I will not accept the claim that IHH had bad intentions. Those people may have panicked suddenly and reacted for their life. They may have made a counter attack to save their lives. I do not know how things happened, that will be clarified after the investigation. In Turkey, the Public Prosecution Office has also took action and now everyone's testimonies will be taken, there will also be an international investigation as well. Following this, everything will come to light. Also, if there is lack of food delivery to that region, that is definitely a wierd thing. That must definitely be corrected. Now, within this list of 2000 items to be delivered to Palestine, not the food, soda, chips or Nutella are important; before all the Qur'an and books based on facts of faith are crucial. In other words, it is vital that knowledge on faith should be flowing there. Spiritual education of people there is highly significant. A ship load of books must be delivered there. People who wants to do good, first should save the faith of the people there. Nobody will die of hunger. Not only 2000 items, but a total of 4000 items should be delivered there. There is no need for any limitation on that, the contrary would be odd. If Israel is making such a limitation, there can be no justification for that. I am not sure, I heard of this, but I do not know how it is. How can they give an explanation to this? For example people would like to eat meat there, how can they prohibit this? This is not acceptable. If it is true, this must be kept on the agenda seriously and overcome. All kinds of food items should be permitted there, but foremost books on fact of faith, books talking about the facts of faith as well as films. Saving the faiths of those people is very crucial, in other words not saving them in this world but their salvation in the Hereafter is vital. We will save their world in the first place insha'Allah, may Allah make us instrumental to this end. But it is crucial point is to save their faiths.
We say Palestine all the time, but what about Iraq? Everyone mentions Palestine all the time. What about Afghanistan? About people of Moro? What about Chad, or East Turkestan? Are we able to send relief to East Turkestan? Nobody is able to go in there. A way is eventually found to enter Palestine, even with 75 items of goods. We cannot enter East Turkestan for even 1 item of material, only one. We are able to deliver my books into Red China through a very indirect way. The government of Red China put a ban on our internet website due to the effect that they cause revival in faith. The government in Red China issued a special decree and banned the Harun Yahya website. We of course showed other ways to our brothers and they access any way. There is great spiritual revival in China, thanks to Allah, Elhamdulil'Allah. We find other ways to deliver our books, we found a way out, thanks to Allah.
Why is East Turkestan not on the agenda? Why not Afghanistan? There are thousands of kids there in hunger, poverty, walking with barefoot on the ground; without shoes and impoverished, right? The comprehensive solution to this should be sought for. The system of the Mahdi (pbuh) is the general solution for this, Mister Ertugrul. It is the appearance of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh), the coming of the Prophet Jesus(pbuh). For instance, if we ask Ertugrul, "What is your opinion of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh)?" maybe he will oppose feverishly. If we ask, "How do you consider the world dominion of Islamic morality?", maybe he will postpone it to 570 later just like the Cubbeli. That is not right. If you want Palestine's salvation, then you must request Islamic morals to dominate the world. You should send books related with world dominion of morals of Islam to Palestine and every other region and enhance the revival. Strive for the establishment of the Turkish Islamic Union all over the world. That is the urgent need, the utmostly urgent one.
In other words, a person does not die of hunger easily, that is not easy. Our Palestinian brothers will not die of hunger, but the entire world of Islam is dying due to lack of faith, they are in a wrecthed position, they are experiencing a spiritual death. The majority of them are dying, and only a very little group of them could be saved. There is need to call out for ending this spiritual death. See that you give importance to material sustenance but why are you not considering sustenance of faith important Mister Ertugrul? Right? You must distribute this all over the world, to Pakistan, Afghanistan, Moro, Chad, and East Turkestan. In East Turkestan, they take away ten thousand young girls from their homes to send them to houses of prostitution in Red China. There are incredible dread there and nobody is able to obtain information about them. Aren't they human beings too? Army and Police forces of Red China massacre 100 thousand, or 50 thousand people in one night. They execute without questioning, they shot people before the press. They have people kneel down, shoot right at their heads and martyr them. And nobody ushers a word. Right?
Definitely an improvement and correction policy should be embraced towards Israel, but the Muslims in the entire world are under oppression. One must stand up for the salvation of all Muslims in the world. If a Muslim is not dying of hunger and is able to consume some bread and cheese, then I would not give him money for food, but for books. I would send him books. Because foremost, his Herafter and eternal life is important. Life in this world passes in a blink of an eye. But eternal life is essentially important. To gain the compassion and pleasure of Allah is crucial. And above all, is gaining the Approval of Allah , it is crucial to gain this.
He says,"Dear Hodja; for the sake of Allah, Gazze is not within the borders of Israel, so why is there the need to ask for Israeli permission? Please, do not say that." Look brother, my dear brother, in that case our brothers are martyred and food cannot be delivered, and such incidents arise. If there is an opportunity to handle the matter practically, what should I say then? Should I say, "Let us go and fight Israel and let there be such incidents?" I am after a practical solution, in other means the achievement of an outcome. What should I say? "Let us also shoot them all and throw bombs?" What should I say?
There is a practical solution and this is implemented by others. The "Is Anybody There" founation carries this out, so the same style and method may be employed. These people go and ask for permission, and they are able to distribute relief. We can also ask for permit and deliver. Consequent to that kind of a manner of speech, such people speaking, disappear from sight. First, they provoke people, then they fly like pigeons and are lost from sight. This is not bravery, if you are brave then you should ask for the Turkish Islamic Union and the Union of Islam. You should request the domination of Islamic morals all over the world. If you are brave enough, then you should ask for salvation for the peoples of East Turkestan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Chad, Moro, Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria. Muslims are under oppression everywhere. I may name another example, but let me not do that. You all see that young girls, Muslims girls are under such affliction in many countries, don't you? Do not pretend not to understand. You must act with reason at this point. They should behave with wisdom and act according to the Qur'an. Also, they should trust the hadiths of our Prophet (saas)'s, insha'Allah.
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