ADNAN OKTAR:There are unpublished letters of the Master. There are some private secrets he gave to his followers about the Mahdi(pbuh). I have personally met with those secrets. Look, I have announced that. For instance Brother Sungur was his secret keeper, he is full of secrets. However we have been able to get some information from these secrets for twice. One of them was the one I mentioned, the one in the mosque, when we met in the Kilic Ali Pasha Mosque, he came by, he was continuously giving lessons to our brothers. He asked me my name, and then my surname. We were, I mentioned before, sitting with our turbans, it was like a field of daisies, we were sitting altogether and talking. In the beginning that was how we were meeting. We were gathering in the mosques and talking. He came by and asked my name and surname. He took out a note book and made an abjad calculation.  Our friends got excited and did something awkward. A few of them, because they were only newly involved with us, started laughing at each other.  It didn't seem to be proper, I found it a bit improper. "My dear hodja, let us go a little further and talk there, come along" I said. There I asked to brother Sungur; "My dear Hodja, will the Mahdi(pbuh) be a student of the Nur?".  He said: "This is the explanation of the Beduizzaman; he will be quiet different." He said "He won't be a student of the Nur said Said Nursi." In such events one always regrets afterwards. I said I wish I asked a few more words. Because a person who is in that mood would have continued to say more. But I thought to myself let me not clamp down. Brother Sungur would never give way to clamping down anyway. I mean one should not ask so many questions to him. He only tells them when he gets excited. Recently I have gone to visit him. There as well, he never tells anything about the subject of Mahdi(pbuh). He always says Beduizzaman was the Mahdi(pbuh). I mean he always closes this subject.  Then he said… While the issue of the End Times came up, "My dear hodja, what did our Master say about the Mahdi(pbuh)?" we asked and said some similar things. Brother Sungur said :"He told me that he did not see him but I would see." It was all crowded, there were a lot of people there, Allah knows the truth, this was the first time he ever said such a thing. I mean, in my opinion, even his own children were not aware of this.  He tells such things to me, my Hodja, Masha'Allah. He loves me Masha'Allah. 

But sayyid Salih Ozcan, he also is a secret keeper. He also possesses a lot of information.  See that I have made our brother who had visited him, Mert, talk the other day.  We can even have him, Sayyid Salih Hodja, talk on the live program if Allah grants the honor. See that he did not say that Mahdi(pbuh) will come this time. He said "Mahdi(pbuh) had arrived". "Mahdi had arrived" said Sayyid Salih Ozcan. He said this because it is what the Master said. He said; 'he had hit my forehead jokingly and said "Keceli, keceli, I will not see the Mahdi(pbuh) but you will"' See that he said "I will not see him but you will see the Mahdi(Pbuh)" He used to say "Mahdi(pbuh) will come, he will come." But recently when our brother visited him he said : "Mahdi(pbuh) had arrived". Our brother says he had repeated this numerous times. 

OKTAR BABUNA:  He said he repeated it three- four times. 

ADNAN OKTAR:He said : "He told me: "tell this to your Hodja, Mahdi(pbuh) had arrived"." And he said "You all are the students of the Mahdi(pbuh) " I mean Allah knows the truth, he does possess a lot more information and also some written documents from the Master. But this will all come out in the open in the End Times. I mean Brother Sungur knows the time for it, he knows when it should be put in the open.  And also other brothers too know when to put that in the open. But at the moment Allah knows the truth, it is not the time, that is why they refrain saying.  Only this much, I mean even this is an excessive information. They said so because it was told to me, I mean normally they wouldn't have said even that.  That is because they might be thinking that it would not be right to say it before it actually happens. I mean they are waiting for it to be realized. That is also what the Beduizzaman says against these kinds of biddings: "Look," he says, "seeds of suspicion will grow in the hearts of astonished people."  He says "in the minds of ordinary people who can be seduced easily," that means in their minds that could easily think negative, "this divine service," this beautiful service, "might be thought as being abused for some other purposes" he says. "For that reason," he says" it would not be right to give out that name."  I mean he tells them not to say anything insha'Allah. It might be that they are not saying anything relying on that. Or else, Bediuzzaman knows all about the name, surname of the Mahdi(pbuh). He knows his birth date. I mean he knows everything about the Mahdi(pbuh) even his birth date.  He knows where he will be active, how he will serve, that his time will be limited. When saying those he says " I only told what I saw." I mean he says he only tells what he personally saw. That is because the things he said are all things based on one's seeing. He says" I have seen it and told about it".   Master says " I have been taken to the presence of the commission of the age while I was in the spiritual realm." While he was in the spiritual realm - I mean it is this state of awareness, the spiritual realm. It is a dream but a dream seen in this state of awareness. 

PRESENTER 1:Like reality

ADNAN OKTAR: Not like, but I mean the actual reality. It is an absolute awareness of consciousness. I mean how is this state of consciousness for us right now, the spiritual realm is the exact same of this. He says he has been taken to the presence of the commission of the age.  Of Hazrat Mahdi(pbuh), Hazrat Jesus(pbuh), Rijal-ul Ghaib(People of Unseen). Is that understood?  All of them I mean, he says "the complete committee was there".  There had been some talks there, and he had communicated a portion of it, only a portion. And some is at his knowledge. He had communicated a portion of it to his students. "When I came back to myself," he says " I mean when I came back to myself, when  I stepped outside that spiritual realm, I found myself in a stand ready to receive orders position in my bed all sweated," he says.  In a sitting position like this, like the sitting position in the prayers. His hands like this, in a ready to receive orders position, his head bowed, "I have found myself in this position in bed," he says. He says he had turned back from the spiritual realm in this position.  And he says  " I only tell what I saw." I mean Said Nursi is not someone that people might guess he is. I mean he is not anyone of the scholars, he is not an ordinary person. Moreover, there is a saying which states "sheiks do not fly but his followers make him". I mean I really catch things like that, I never let a lie pass by. I do know everything about the Beduizzaman, I do know everything that is correct very well. I know all very well and these are 100 % correct. They are all 100 % accurate. I mean I do know the made up ones as well. These do not take place in the books anyway. The Master did not let them put those into the Risale-i Nur Collection. These are lies, there is no need for them. But there are some narrated by his followers, some correct ones they have witnessed personally, I know them as well. Insha'Allah.