Excerpt from Mr. Adnan Oktar's live interview on Adıyaman Asu TV, 3 May 2010
PRESENTER: There is a question, this is a point I have been wondering about and I wanted to ask. It's a question about Darwinism. When did people begin realizing the problems that Darwinism has created upon the world? Let me revise that, I meant us, as Turks. I was talking about us understanding it, not the world. I am curious about our realization. How long have we realized it?
ADNAN OKTAR: To put it briefly, they became aware of it within the last 10-15 years. I mean clearly realizing it en masse, the people in our country, the Turkish people have realized it within the last 10-15 years. But intensely, I mean more intensely aware, we can say 2-3 years, within the last 2-3 years.
See that 350 million people were killed in Europe. The First World War broke out, and the Second. The Islamic world was broken up. Even Germany was divided into East and West Germany, as well as North and South Korea and North and South Yemen. Even brothers were divided. Everywhere was divided. Nobody stood up and said: "What is going on? Why did all this happen to the world? Why have we lost our happiness and joy? Why have we become egoistical and selfish? What has happened to us? We have been withdrawn into our shells. There is no more neighbourliness or love or peace. Terror and anarchy started to rule. Islamic countries have fallen into the hands of socialists and communists. What is going on?" Then we said, "See, satan has shown you a religion, called Darwinism, and you have gone along with it, that is why it happened." "Really?" they said. "Let us prove it," we said.
Now, we have presented the followers of satan, for instance Stalin, as proof for them. We told them to look at what Stalin had said. He says "Darwin represents the basis of all my views and thoughts." We said take Mao, a person who caused the deaths, the murders, of millions of people. He caused some of them to be martyred. What did he say; "Chinese communism is based on Darwin and his theory of evolution." He speaks quite explicitly, without dragging out the words. We look at Trotsky, he says the same thing. We look at Lenin, he says the same thing. We look at the fascist leaders, we look at Mussolini, he says the same thing. We look at Hitler and Franco, they say the same thing. That means that all the followers of satan benefitted from one religion, they based themselves on a single faith. We have shown this to our nation by repeatedly explaining. Moreover Darwin says: "the Turkish nation must be destroyed en masse because they are a primitive species of monkey," in his book. Darwin's book rests in the library of the state. Look, this is in library of the Robert College, recorded in the official archives. It is recorded in their inventory. This is from Darwin's book. In it he says "the Turks must be eliminated en masse straight away." In other words, this means "kill them, slaughter them, evaporate them, do whatever you want." Do you know what the word "eliminate" means? The dictionary meaning of it is to eradicate, to omit, to liquidate. "You will soon see this being realized," he says. I mean "You will see that the whole Turkish nation has been eliminated. You used to be afraid of them, don't you?" He says. Look, he gives an example: "you used to be afraid of them before, but how laughable the strength of the Turks seems to you now," he says. "You will laugh when you mention the Turks," he says, "but now, we will come to such a stage of evolution that they will all be eliminated." And they put this in state schools and libraries, and it is studied as a text book. If they say, "that is not true", I will prove it. I have a photocopy of the book at hand, and the inventory records are clear. And is this only related in one place? No, it is mentioned in hundreds of places but I have given just one example.
PRESENTER: We have also studied Darwinism at school.
ADNAN OKTAR: It is in schools and everywhere. They taught it to us in middle school. We learned about it in high school and even in primary school.
PRESENTER: Moreover, when I found it to be strange, I was regarded as strange. I was only a child and was unaware of the logic of it, but it did not seem at all logical to me.
ADNAN OKTAR: Miss Serap, I was just like you. I was suspicious of the First and Second World Wars as a child. I was a child and I said, there is something odd here. I never signed up to Darwinism. I realized there was a huge deception going on and that there was something odd about it. I mean, how could so many people become insane all together? I mean a country will turn out to be communists all of a sudden and the other a fascist all together? Is this even possible? No people will go and kill anyone unless there is indoctrination, pressure and violence. The communities, people in general are very compliant and I mean they cannot commit murder, they can't do something like this. But they were dragged into this murders because they were organized and being forced into it. And they produced hundreds of millions of killers in Europe, both communists and fascists.
They killed and martyred hundreds of millions. And that number of killers resulted, an army of assassins. Becoming a killer is a horrible thing as well. May Allah forbid, to kill and martyr someone is oppression, and turning a compliant person into a killer is also a different type of oppression. You would be killing that person spiritually, isn't that right?
The fascists, for instance, sign an innocent person up for military service at the age of 18. "Go and kill," they say, and he goes and kills. Without knowing why he was killing. They occupied all Islamic countries at that time. The Italians occupied Libya and carried out mass killings. The French occupied Algeria and carried out mass killings there. They used to strip girls who covered themselves up and put them on top of their tanks and photographed them, along with the French troops. They were falling around laughing. Then they killed those girls, I mean martyred them.
Now, is it possible for a French youngster to turn into a monster like that, without rhyme or reason? Why should he? He is just a normal university student. But they take them and turn them into monsters by force. You can imagine what they are like afterward. People who have raped and killed people they did not know. They have cut them off and killed them and there are photos of the bodies, too horrible to look at. They cut them into 3 or 4 pieces, cut their heads off, cut their arms off and sliced their tongues out. There are plenty of comprehensive books about this, about the French massacres in Algeria. Darwinism turned them into inconceivable psychopaths. It is as if they were just killing insects. I don't know if it could be broadcasted, if we are to show it for once, it is a deplorable ignominy. This is the ignominy carried out by the Darwinists. These are such inconceivable photos that it is best if I do not talk about it. People might see them in their dreams. And there are thousands of photos of such people in Algeria.
It is the same with Libya. They perpetrated horrors in Morocco and Tunisia. Palestine. The Italians, for instance, are compliant people it is an artistic nation. Italians are in general nice people. But they have dragged them in to evil up until their necks. What have they got to do with fascism? These are artistic people, they occupy themselves with music and painting, they are compliant people. But the Darwinists turned them into professional assassins at that time. The Germans were also people who minded their own business. Go to Germany now for instance, they are peace-loving and quite normal people. But they turned into monsters at that time. Blood was dripping from their mouths. They had the tendency to kill anyone they came across. A psychopath ruined them all. The system of the Mahdi means the person, people, movement, ideas and system that will eliminate all this corruption. Allah is showing us this for the last time. This is the last time. After this, I mean... How old are you?
PRESENTER:I am 24.
ADNAN OKTAR:Masha'Allah, 24. May Allah grant you a long life. Insha'Allah Allah will give you a long life, but I can say it like this; the generation after yours, the ones coming after you will see the Day of Judgment.
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