MR. ADNAN OKTAR’S WEINERR ZEITUNG INTERVIEW

(24 DECEMBER 2008)

ADNAN OKTAR: It is the truth. It is a clear truth that both atheists and believers must accept. Nobody can deny it. This is a fact that all the scientists unanimously agree on. In addition, it is not a materialist view, but rather one that does away with materialism. It is the idea that Lenin was most worried about. Lenin did not want people even to think about it or research or debate on it. It is what Marxists are most worried about. It is the subject that materialism is most hesitant over, and it is a fact. No matter how much they try to avoid the truth, it is still an evident reality that everyone will agree on.

ADNAN OKTAR: For example, do you think this glass in my hand was created by chance, or was there an artist behind it? You will certainly say there was an artist. You will say that definitely human beings made it. But human beings do not make it in your brain, Allah does. You see me and all this technical equipment or that service cart over there. If anyone asks you will say that these were definitely manufactured by someone. But they are being shown to you by Allah in your brain. No factory can have these things shown you in your brain. No company, no research group or scientist can form that image in your brain. A power creates this image in your brain. We call the Power Who creates this in your brain Allah. I use guarded language when I explain this in order not to panic people. If I explain it at length in a bald language someone hearing me may be seized by a terrible panic, so I use very careful language and explain it slowly in a manner people can understand. Otherwise, it will be impossible for anyone not to believe in Allah in the face of this reality. Whilst a person is sane, there is no alternative other than believing in Allah. For example, they make my watch in a factory; many engineers and technicians work hard to do so. There are two watches, the material one and the one in my brain. I am unable to have direct experience of the material one. I only have direct experience of the one in my brain. There is a power that shows it to me in my brain. For me, the real watch is the one in my brain, not the one outside made in the factory. In other words, there is one real watch, the one I see in my brain, but that is not made in a factory. The Power that makes it is Allah. We never have direct experience of the watch made in the factory. We experience the watch we see in our brains. That is the thing we refer to as the watch, the real watch. That is an evident fact, one that nobody can deny. That is the reality of this world. Materialists are terrified by it, but it is a reality they can never escape. No matter how much they may deny it, they are still denying it in an image in their brains. None can escape that reality.

MR. ADNAN OKTAR’S AMERICAN PUBLIC TV INTERVIEW

(19 DECEMBER 2008)

ADNAN OKTAR: When you look at the Sun or the Moon you are looking at the Sun or Moon inside your brain. You cannot see the Sun or Moon on the outside. When you look at the world, when you look at a window outside, you see the view inside your brain. You cannot see what is on the outside. Only Allah knows what exactly lies outside. There is matter on the outside, but we experience images of it, not the original. Therefore, Allah creates every species in Creation, everything as images in our brains. The originals do exist on the outside, but we deal with images of them. For example, you and I appear to be sitting at a distance from one another, but my watch and your watch are created in the same place in your brain. If you rub your eyes a little, my image and yours will move around. That is clear evidence we are dealing with an image of matter. But the image is so clear and high quality and three-dimensional that we imagine we are dealing with the real thing. The fact is, however, that this is a deception stemming from the clarity of the image. Allah has created us in this way with a superb artistry. And it is absolutely amazing. The world is only just beginning to grasp this great reality.

MR. ADNAN OKTAR’S ERZINCAN CAN TV INTERVIEW

(JULY 2008)

ADNAN OKTAR: You are now sitting opposite me, and I can see you. You are now sitting opposite me in material form, but the jacket I am touching, your jacket and mine, are in the same place in my brain. Your pencil and my cup are forming in the same place in my brain. There is one image in a single block. And there are not two separate images. Nor is there one channel for you and another for me. We are watching one and the same channel. There is a single screen. I see the house on that screen, and I see you, and can see myself and the water. We say there is matter on the outside. But we experience the images of all actions. It is of course impossible for us to see matter in the true sense for all eternity. Only Allah can know that. In other words, no matter what we do, we still come up against the same image, whether or not there is matter on the outside. Of course, there is matter on the outside, or that is what we believe.

PRESENTER:It is there, but we can never have direct dealings with the original.

ADNAN OKTAR: We never can. We are dealing with such a high-quality television. Imagine they show us a film and we cannot know if it is real or not. Some three-dimensional images are so realistic they genuinely look like people. The television in the human brain is the most perfect television in the world. It is so perfect that we imagine the person is really standing opposite to us. Even though we are talking with images; for instance, you appear to me to be about a meter and a half away, but that is not so. We are in the same place, and nobody denies this. It is a scientific, well-known, manifest truth. As you know, your image would normally appear reversed in my brain. It comes into my eyes as a reversed image and then the brain corrects it and produces a normal image, but an electric current comes to my brain. The inside of my brain is pitch black. That brightness forms within that darkness. The inside of the brain is in total darkness. Life and the whole world form in a tiny piece of flesh. Light and colors form. Sound is also three-dimensional. For example, I think your voice is coming from over there. How come does one avoid believing this? It appears to be real as it is three-dimensional. Sound is also three-dimensional. Allah creates a very high quality. He creates sounds and images to such a high quality that almost nobody can free himself from them. One cannot stop oneself from thinking they are real.

MR. ADNAN OKTAR’S LIVE INTERVIEW ON KANAL 35

(1 FEBRUARY 2009)

ADNAN OKTAR:For example, there is a mild breeze here at the moment. I am drinking lime tea, and touching it, I have a feeling of distance and of heat. Your voice is coming from a distance, it is coming three-dimensionally. I also see you in three-dimensions. How come does one avoid believing this? You are very clear and sharp in my brain. The tea is also in my brain, and the spotlights, and these books and everything are all in my brain. And they all form in a very tiny space.

PRESENTER:It is just the size of a lentil, isn’t it?

ADNAN OKTAR:But this is Allah’s artistry. It is a great artistry. Light and shade are created separately, for instance. This is set out in the Qur’an. Shadow is created separately, though people imagine it forms because of light. Both are created separately. Allah creates light and shadow separately. Shadow is a distinct artistry of Allah’s. Objects take form through shadow. They would look very different if there were no shade. The feeling of depth and many other beauties are all the result of shade. Otherwise there would just be a single plane. It will be very useful for people to be generally aware of this. Though it is no crime for it to be forgotten, of course. But it is a crime to forget Allah. Allah must not be forgotten. We must always know that Allah creates everything. Otherwise, may Allah forbid, people may find themselves in a state of idolatry, saying how well they have done this or that, for instance. But you cannot do anything. What can someone who watches an electric current in a tiny little space that has the size of a lentil really do? He says he has built factories and plants. But does he know where he has actually said that? If he were to see he said in that tiny little space that has the size of a lentil he might collapse and have to sit down to get over that dreadful terror. But he is unaware of it, and says he has built these plants and factories. But just press on your eyeballs a bit and what happens to all those facilities? They move backward and forward. Then you will clearly see they are all in your brain and that nobody can build any factories. Allah gives you an image of them in your brain. Allah makes all facilities. Nobody else can make them. Nobody can do anything. They say they have built protein in a laboratory. But when we ask what laboratory, it is the laboratory in the brain. In what tiny space? In the size of a lentil. They have produced the laboratory in a part of that space the size of a lentil no bigger than one or half a micron.

MR. ADNAN OKTAR’S LIVE INTERVIEW ON TEMPO TV

(20 JANUARY 2009)

ADNAN OKTAR: This subject is the greatest miracle that has ever been seen. It is a huge phenomenon, but some people fail to comprehend it properly and some just ignore it, while those who do understand it are left breathless. It is a huge issue. For example, I am talking to you now. Your image and mine, the clothes I am wearing, are forming in the same space in my brain. This is a really huge miracle, for two people to be in the same space. If you tell people this they will wonder how it can be possible and will say it is a great miracle. And we are living this great miracle at every moment. We see the electric current reaching the brain as a human being, as objects, as the world, as light and color. The electricity which arrives to that tiny space in the brain has a low amount of ampere. Indeed it has a very low power. And we see this as a perfect three dimensional phenomenon with depth. When we put an image onto a lens we have difficulty establishing a sharp image. Even if one has a perfect lens the image will still be rather vague and ordinary. The eye is filled with fluid, and light passes through that fluid, and it is transmitted to the brain as an electric current. I am summarizing here, of course. And we see this electric current as people and the world. We see cars and go to school and sit at our exams. When a student is listening to a lecture in the lecture hall, he is seeing the hall in his brain. He listens to the lecturer in his brain, and cannot listen to the lecturer on the outside. There is a teacher on the outside, but he cannot see him. There is a lecture hall on the outside, but he does not see that. The lecture hall is shrunk, really shrunk, inside his brain, and the brain shows him an enlarged model of it. It shows it to him as being very large. Since the space in the brain where it forms is very small and the electric current is very low, it is obvious that the image produced by that electric current will also be very small. Something infinitesimal.