PRESENTER 2:  "Dear Mr. Adnan, in your previous interviews, you said that today many people convert to Islam with the influence of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) and the Prophet Jesus (pbuh). We can easily think that this is a result of the collapse of Darwinism and materialism and that Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) had been instrumental in this. But what effect could the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) have over people converting to Islam? Could you explain this?"

ADNAN OKTAR:  Nowadays, our brothers could freeze the subject of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh). The next ten years is about the system of the Mahdi (pbuh). The subject of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) will begin 10 years later. Let me tell you this loud and clear. This is because,  then they will have very intensive evidences on their hands and also since the things I told about will come to happen, they will be more convinced. But now, we are in the time of Mahdism and the course of events is in accordance with the hadiths. I mean, there is so much information about Mahdism and there are thousands of hadiths and hundreds of events have happened and we have the means of explain it all in details. However, since the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) acts through divine inspiration and since he will hide, it is not possible to get any information now, I can say it's completely impossible. Therefore, any information would be superficial. But see that I'm openly saying this; the Ark of Covenant of the Prophet Moses (pbuh) will be found. For example this is a very big event and this will move the world and I'm giving details. I'm giving very delicate details. I'm explaining the structure. I'm telling the materials that will be found inside it, let me not say materials, may Allah forgive, the relics that will be found in it and these will happen. The Prophet Jesus (pbuh) is coming to confirm for the last time. That is to say, he will confirm the Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh), he will confirm the death of the system of the anti-christ. The Prophet Jesus (pbuh) doesn't have an intensive struggle in that sense. Because what the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) wants for real is to be in the ummah of our Prophet (saas), it is to join this ummah, to be the vizier of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh). Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will be honored with the coming of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) insha'Allah. I'm telling this in terms of causes and wisdom. And Almighty Allah sends him, as that will be a very important evidence in terms of the confirmation of the End of Times as well as the confirmation of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh). He will perform miracles to the extent that people will be convinced. But none will cause them to lose the freewill of their minds. I mean people will find them acceptable nevertheless. Therefore, our brothers should concentrate more on the Mahdism in these 10 years. They should wait for the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) full of his love and affection, and with the excitement to see his immaculate face. But no matter what I say now, they can't see him. For example, I'm also talking about Hazrat Khidir (pbuh). They can't be able to see Khidir now. But Mahdism is a very explicit and overt subject. Allah created an easiness in that. That is because since there is no claim of Prophethood, Mahdism will develop in front of people and since no opposite claims would be made possible -Allah made Mahdism steadfast- will advance unceasingly. This is very clear. But the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) has approximately 1400 students. Almost 1400 students. Students amongst whom there are also women. But look, he will use ready-made books. Look, it is told in the hadith, "Jesus (pbuh) will take and open it (the ark), and will find a seal and a thousand books. And with these books, he will  perform his duty of communicating the word." Again we see that it relies on Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh), that his activities rely on Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh). And he is his vizier. But Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will benefit from him on crucial matters, as his consultant and vizier in the best way possible insha'Allah. He will have great respect and love for him of course. He will have a very strong love. But now for instance, had the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) already come, this would not be suitable to the tradition of Allah. People have their guards on now. Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will break people's guards first. He will break their power of resistance. There will be such an environment that when the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) comes, everybody will embrace him as their guests. Bu if it happens now, this would not be so insha'Allah.

PRESENTER:That is not the right time.

ADNAN OKTAR:No it is not. But for instance, 2012 is an immensely important period in all of the Holy Scriptures, in all Holy Books, even if they were distorted and changed. After 2012 a very critical period begins. And it will continue after that. For example, just like the coming of the Prophet Jesus(pbuh), I mean of course it cannot be compared with it, but for instance the finding of the Ark of Covenant is a grave excitement. For example, the stone tablets, the tablets containing the Ten Commandments of the Prophet Moses (pbuh) will be found. This is a very big incident. There will be things that belong to their time such as shirts, shoes, things that belong to the families of the Prophet Moses (pbuh) and the Prophet Aaron (pbuh). These are all very big incidents of course and very special ones. Additionally it is also very special that they stayed in good condition. This is also extraordinary in terms of the location of the Ark. Because no matter what happens, in time, things like shoes and such, should rot due to bacteria. But the protective attribute of that Ark is also a miracle. For example, it is very suprizing that the Ark of Noah (pbuh) had stayed, isn't it? For 5000 years its wood still gives out a noise when you knock on it. I mean no such thing would endure 5000 years, but it did. And the scientists accept it as well. They say, "Yes it did." They also accept its age of 5000 years. It's correct as well. I mean they can't interpret it now. Everyone is trying to come up with different ideas at the moment. It is clearly evident that it's so. But it offended them so much since they thought that it was a only a tale; while they were not believing it, it came out to be true. That is because this also proves the truth of the religion. It proves all three religion to be true in that respect. Right? It was so hard on them and bothered them a lot. For that reason, they continue to publish articles in panic. However this doesn't change the fact, as it is so explicit. Further evidences will also be collected. That is because the ship is composed of several parts. The body of ship continues even further into the mountain. They have not yet reached there, the other rooms have not been entered yet. Now they will enter those as well. They will see even bigger signs. Therefore, the End of Times is always very exciting, if they follow up more closely..