ADNAN OKTAR: Look Bediuzzaman says: "The Third Level of Life is that of Idris (Enoch) and Jesus (May Allah grant them peace) which, being removed from the requirements of humanity, rises to an angelic level of life and acquires a luminous fineness." This means that neither the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) nor the Prophet Idris (pbuh) had any needs such as eating, drinking and sleep. He says that they passed to a life like the life of Angels. He says that their lives resemble that of Angels'. "Quite simply, Idris and Jesus are present in the heavens with their earthly bodies, which have the subtlety of bodies from the World of Similitudes and the luminosity of star-like bodies." He says that their bodies, their objects took the form of spirits. That's how they are in the sky. This can happen to people in this world as well. Their bodies take the form of grace and turns into divine light, turning into the form of a soul. Then for example one can contact with Gabriel (pbuh) or Hazrat Khidr (pbuh). Bediuzzaman pointed out an important subject. "The third is: the reflection of luminous souls. This reflection is both alive and alike."  I'll explain it because the original is in Ottoman. He says, "Moreover, attaining luminous more than that of awliya(saints) ", developing very much divine light "and some who are called abdal(wandering dervish) can be observed in many places at the same time."  He is saying that they can be at different places at the same time since they go out of space. He says that "the same individual does separate duties". Just like Bediuzzaman being seen performing prayer in the mosques of the city while he was in prison. Look, when different things are told to me, I approach most of them with suspicion. But Bediuzzaman is a very honest person. I go surety for him as he is a very honest person. Bediuzzaman being seen performing prayer while in prison is an incident that was recorded in legal documents. This is not a folkloric narration but it's an incident recorded in legal documents. People who opened up investigations are being mentioned, this is very important. Because they say, "You let this person go while he was in prison and he went and performed prayers at the mosque." And there, the officials of the prison are being held responsible. The man says, "We did no such thing, the doors were locked." He says, "We didn't do anything." He is seen at the mosque. While they are investigating this, they look and he is still inside the prison. Here this is the explanation of that incident. ".. Being removed from the requirements of humanity, rises to an angelic level of life and acquires a luminous fineness."A person has a special power inside his brain that comes out when concentrated. I can't explain it now. The person comes to such a point that his or her body is full of grace. Then he or she becomes a spiritual being like a soul. In that environment, there is a connection with Gabriel (pbuh) and connection with Hazrat Khidr (pbuh). This is what is called "removal of time, removal of place", insha'Allah.