ADNAN OKTAR:They are influenced. But when the man is influenced and accepts it, the society will externalize him. For example, let's think about a young man, a member of a communist group; what would his condition be? For example, a communist who is a member of a terrorist organisation, spent 20 years with his friends but understood the invalidity of Darwinism. Now if he goes and says at a meeting of his communist friends, "I understood that Darwinism is invalid. There is a Creator." Then they are finished as it would be a very different situation. For once, his communist identity is finished. His terrorist identity is finished as well. Or let's think about a satanist. If he says, "I believe in Allah from now on. I realized that Darwinism is invalid", just think what position that satanist would have among other satanists.

Let us show them the ways of getting away from that as well. Or a lecturer at the university for instance, he understood the invalidity of Darwinism. But he is a professor in a faculty related with Darwinism, in a faculty indirectly related with Darwinism. What should that person do? Let us show them the ways of getting away from that. Or one has rascal friends who are against religion and he lives among them. But one day he understands that Darwinism doesn't exist and Allah exists. How will he defend himself? Let's explain them how they will struggle in that community with or without implicating himself and the psychological roots of the idea. Now for example, a big media group seen our success and strength overseas. Now if they don't say anything, it would offend their pride. If they say, "The friends of Adnan Oktar had gone there and they are destroying the men", it wouldn't do. Of if they say, "They went and held a conference" it wouldn't do either. What should they do? They have to say, "They held a conference but we are not influenced at all."  Those elderly men say this like children. This is the most primitive psychological defense method. They say, "They explained but no one was influenced." What kind of a method is this? What kind of a style is this? How do you know?  Do you read the man's mind? If you prove a man with scientific truths that a protein can't happen by coincidence, then how could that man still remain a Darwinist? How is he not influenced? The case is closed. How could a man continue to believe when you explicitly prove it technically? Right? They follow very poor defence methods like they are trying to deceive children. This is also a style; let us deliberate on this. Again one of their psychological  methods is that when they find an evidence, a fossil that refutes evolution; for instance like an old human skull, they either destroy it or don't show it at all. They hid the fossils belonging to the living things of the Cambrian era as you know.

ALTUĞ BERKER:For seventy years.

ADNAN OKTAR:They hid them for seventy years. This, for instance, is a very big incident. The man has been hiding the fossils of living things of the Cambrian period for seventy years. This is also a defense method. Forging fossils is another method of psychological propaganda. For example, talking about aliens when in a tight corner. That is because he will not accept Allah so he says, "At least aliens should step in." He is trying to be freed from there. When the idea of aliens is taken away from him, he will again try to find a new way. He will escape from this corner to that. Let us explain their methods of escape as well.