PRESENTER 1: "You have said that people who do not have faith are specially created and that there is the possibility that they may have no soul insha'Allah. Allah reveals in the verse that I read today: "Whoever Allah guides is truly guided. But as for those He leads astray, you will not find any protectors for them apart from Him. We will gather them on the Day of Judgment, flat on their faces, blind, dumb and deaf. Their shelter will be Hell. Whenever the Blaze dies down, We will increase it for them." (Surat Al-Isra') Allah says that He will create unbelievers as blind, dumb and deaf in the Hereafter too. Can that be another evidence showing that these people have no souls? With respect and love.. We love you very much my dear Master." Merve Bayram sent from Ankara.

ADNAN OKTAR: We say "Salam" to Merve insha'Allah. Such a person of course has a soul. I mean there is nothing that doesn't carry Allah's soul. There is no place that Allah doesn't exist. However, his conscious is closed. That is important. Because look, Allah says, "They have eyes but they don't see." That is to say, Allah says that their eyes are like a machine. There is an eye that transmits the image to the brain. There is an image forming there but he doesn't realize that, he doesn't get it or notice it. He is like a machine. For instance, he has a nose and he smells but he doesn't realize. Allah says, "They have eyes, their ears don't hear." For instance, his ears hear the voice but he doesn't realize. What does this mean? This means that he lives in the second or third level of consciousness. Allah says, "They are like animals and even lower than animals." That is because animals are cute beings..  They show acts of intelligence. Allah doesn't liken them to animals. He likens them to animals at first for us to understand in terms of close mindedness. But because animals are companionable and well-behaved and because these are not traits of the unbelievers, Allah says that they are lower than animals.

They are much more awkward; so Allah leaves it to us to think about. "Realize that now" says Allah,   "it is such a creature." Therefore, it looks as if their minds are completely gone. Allah took their minds away but of course they have caused it themselves. They say in the Hereafter that they deserved it. However, is this possible to understand it? No. It is not possible. Just like it's not possible to understand the infinite or the subjects we tell about the existence of matter; this is not possible to understand either. What concerns us is this: I always say this; we are responsible to be good. Allah is a Being Who is immediately realized. He bestows His Grace on us, he gives us His Blessings and we love Allah. We love Him very very much. We love Him with love and passion. Because He is the only Owner of all beauties, we feel a deep affection and a deep love for Him. And Allah says, "If you come with this love and sincerity of yours, I'll put you in Paradise." He says, "I'll remove all reasons." There is a system of reason, here in this world. He says, "I'll remove all reasons and I'll make you live in a perfect way." Allah says, "But you must first be certain that you deserve it."

He says, "You must be trained there first and then I'll make you live this life." The life now is very extraordinary if one thinks about it, we see that we live in a complete miracle. It is a miracle that Darwinists can't think. For instance, last night Darwinists were on Haberturk, they just can't think, they can't realize, they can't understand what is going on. For instance they can't see the existence of Allah. It is breath taking for a person to see that they can't realize that; I watched them with great surprise, amazement and attention. And I took them on tape so that I can look part by part. That is most astounding. They are under the influence of an unbelievable Power, a very amazing Power. Well let me not say unbelievable, as it might be misunderstood, may Allah forgive. I mean it is clearly understood that they are specially directed and that Allah created them like that specially. Otherwise, who wouldn't understand Creation? I mean Creation is very clear. If you ask a seven year old, he or she would understand immediately. They can't understand and they are also very determined in their manner that criticizes the Allah's Creation. And everything they say is wrong, but they keep telling about it with great determination and they don't even realize. Now, I'll show them part by part. Of course I'll explain it to our people but we'll also show them part by part. I'll draw attention to the miracles there as well. I'll explain why it is a miracle that they can't understand this. Because Allah says, I seek refuge with Allah from the satan, "If you are surprised at their blindness, what could be more surprising than their words: 'What, when we are turned to dust, shall we then be created all anew?' " So what's real surprising, amazing and miraculous is that they don't believe.

For example, not only the life of the spider or the ant but we have to emphasize the miracles there as well. We will prepare a tape or a video clip on how surprising this denial or incomprehension is in the following days both to show here for our brothers and to use in our other activities. I guess that this will also be offered for sale by Global Publishing. When there is more progress of course they will be saved from this situation but they will also be very surprised when the time comes. They will be amazed. They will say," How did we talk like this? How did we do these? Are these really us?" Insha'Allah...