Adnan Oktar:The man you showed the other day was Hawking, right? That is a wretched person, why do they attach such importance to this man?

I mean this guy's brain is deteriorated, his body is collapsed, his soul is deteriorated. I mean no healthy information can come out of that person anyway. His cognizance and his judgment are impaired. His health is deteriorated. It is not acceptable to say "why does he say this?" to a person with poor health. One needs to feel compassion for such a person. What is the significance of his words, Hawking, whatsoever?  Our people are a bit strange about falsely showing such a person jazzed up, I mean not all of them, but some rare ones are. I mean let him say whatever he likes, what significance has it?

Oktar Babuna: This person used to believe in Allah when his mind was sharper Master. There is a book he published in 1988. There, he says that Allah, Creator exists.  He says if we develop a bigger theory -may Allah forbid- we would understand Allah's creation better. 

Adnan Oktar:The man is a wretched person, he is wretched because of his illness. How can healthy information come out from such a person? He can't even speak. 

Oktar Babuna:He doesn't speak, yes

Adnan Oktar:What does he do? He is doing something.

Oktar Babuna: He sort of writes with hand gestures, movements. 

Adnan Oktar:My brother, let us see if he is actually writing those. I mean the guy is almost dead. He is practically dead anyway, he can't move. They say that he had written this, who's to say that he did? Who is to say that he is writing?

Oktar Babuna: It might not be him. Indeed, just like you said, insha'Allah. 

Adnan Oktar:Of course. They might be implementing polygon method. 

Oktar Babuna: Yes, yes Master

Adnan Oktar: For that reason I do not believe him much. 

Oktar Babuna:Insha'Allah.

Adnan Oktar:Insha'Allah. That is because he is a person who forfeited his health; that is for one. Secondly he is a person who can't speak.  This person cannot move at all. He is in a wretched state. And they are saying, he wrote these, he said that, let them come off it. I mean let's assume that he did actually say, his words wouldn't be valid anyway. 

Or what if he were healthy, what's the significance. There are lots of irreligious, faithless professors, they are writing. What do we do? We are making a roll of what they write and stash it in their ears. The things such people write about Darwinism, things they write about materialism. For instance we stash what they write about Darwinism in one of their ears and what they write about materialism in the other.  We have such a rolling activity every time. Insha'Allah. Consequently they stop speaking eventually. 

Oktar Babuna:The things they claim he said are so funny things. He explained the initiation of Big bang.  He says something will create itself from nothing, he says there is a system that would create something by coincidence from nothingness. That is because there is the gravity, he says. I mean he says something can create itself from nothingness by coincidence. That’s what he says. This is his claim. 

Adnan Oktar:My brother, such things happen. We cannot expect healthy information to come out of a person with such a wretched mind and a wretched soul. Sometimes very strange things come out of even healthy brains.  Now as we say, we continuously have a rolling activity. When they say something wrong about Darwinism we stash them in one of their ears. When they write things about materialism we stash it in the other ear. And the matter is thus solved. The important part here is that we crush them like dried fruit rolls, or not? That is what's very important. They are saying genius Bedri said this. Hawking said that. I mean each other has a different appearance, some stick around like a bonus man. 

Oktar Babuna:Some call cancer evolution. He says cancer is evolution. 

Adnan Oktar:Anyhow, let me not say anything now. Each of them is a different class of being. 

Oktar Babuna:None of them dares to confront you anyway, all of them sneaked off Master. They are trying to speak from a distance while hiding, trying to keep the distance. 

Adnan Oktar:Let them read our Atlas of Creation, that is what we recommend them.