ADNAN OKTAR: This one has been saying that schools have alienated the theory of Darwin. It is me, who did that; did the government do it? My brother, what does it have to do with it? The government was publishing periodical Science and Technology (Bilim Teknik) and an article that praises Darwin and they did, did they not? Then, we warned them, we told them. Moreover there was even Darwin propaganda on TRT(Turkish Radio Television) and it was us who warned them. The government has no problem with Darwin. Brother, how did you come up with that? Right? Let us call him genius Baykam; genius child. See that your genius did not work here; the government did not take any stand against Darwinism. There is no such thing; it is us who develop an attitude towards that. The government cannot have an attitude against it; as the governments have to act in a neutral way. It is obliged to act in a neutral way in terms of the structure of the laws and the state, but in spite of this, the government is still biased as a tradition. The previous governments, the ones before them as well, it always constantly like that; they always supported Darwin. We destroyed Darwinism, genius Baykam, Mr. Genius, insha'Allah. Right? See ; Mr. Genius could not realize this. Why say "No" just because we destroyed Darwinism? You can vote "No" for us if we put it to the vote, but if there is someone listening to him of course..

OKTAR BABUNA: There is no need for him to cry.

ADNAN OKTAR:Right?On Yeni Safak newspaper, news items appear that are in favor of evolution from time to time, that praise evolution and we phone them and say "What are you doing? Do not do it." There are news on Turkey newspaper and we warn them not to do that and say "You did wrong." Then we prepare announcements about it, our friends do so. We struggled a lot to state the wrongfulness of this. Our Fethullah Hodja has a magazine called "Aksiyon." There is an item on cover: "Human or Monkey. Not certain." Here you go; a Darwinism propaganda. "Brother," we told them "what are you doing? What have we been working about for years, and what are you doing?" We also struggled about that.

OKTAR BABUNA: Haber 7 frequently does that.

ADNAN OKTAR: Haber 7, they frequently did that and we also warned them and could just now get results. We warned them a great deal; phoned them and sent them articles and published announcements and barely prevented them. They get scholars on television, Prof. Yasar Nuri on television or some other scholar and they say "There is evolution in the Qur'an as well"; and many of them did that, including Abdulaziz Bayindir and so forth. They caused us a lot of work but Alhamdulillah (thanks be to Allah) this is a religious service so we will of course strive; but we got results. Therefore, just as the government has no such policy, some part of the religious segment also supports Darwinism knowingly or not knowingly anyway; but we convinced them with knowledge, love, courtesy, culture and evidence.

But we have no way of convincing the government; the government has an official policy, the government is based on the Constitution. Therefore, they do not act according to our word. What does TRT(Turkish Radio Television) do? They do Darwinism propaganda openly, right? What does periodical Science and Technology (Bilim Teknik)do? They do Darwinism propaganda openly; they used to do it. But we overpowered them. We enlightened people in such a way that 95 percent of the people do not believe in Darwinism. In that case, what does it matter if periodical Science and Technology (Bilim Teknik) wrote about it? What does it mean if they say that Darwinism exits? The government's attitude is not free. The government has no such system in Turkey; this is a requirement of secularity anyway. Understood? It is a requirement from one aspect. But secularity does not say "Go and tell Darwinism" right? It says "Tell Darwinism but also tell the opposite thought." It is forbidden to tell the opposite thought in Turkey. Have you ever seen any television channel or broadcast say that proteins cannot be formed by chance?

OKTAR BABUNA:We did not, Master.

ADNAN OKTAR: You cannot. Our people only heard that from us. Right? Have you ever heard any media organ of the state say that there are no transitional fossils? You cannot. Then what happens with Mr. Genius? Right? He may continue to glue his paper and splatter his paint and mix it with his hands just like that. We are not saying anything to that genius; he may look at his pictures from a distance.

OKTAR BABUNA: He came by with his hair like this. He made this part of his hair white.

ADNAN OKTAR:They call it the bonus man right?

OKTAR BABUNA: Right, exactly bonus man, Master, he was talking with a loud voice

ADNAN OKTAR:He is a genius, genius.