ADNAN OKTAR:Bediuzzaman says that followers and friends of the Prophet Jesus, his capacity of knowledge and material power is very small compared to the giant statue and giant capacity of the anti-Christ. Their number is small, but he says that the antichrist is "killed with strike of his sword." Even though his power is so limited to let him only jump up to his knees, he strikes with his sword and kills the anti-Christ. What is indicated here, is the sword of knowledge. Bediuzzaman says that also about the companions of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh), they are very small in number. When compared to followers of the anti-Christ, they may be one against a million. But that small army will tear down the system of anti-Christ all over the world.

The small army of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh), which consists of 1400 persons, will pull down the giant system of anti-Christ in politics all over the world. Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh), pulls down the system of anti-Christ in belief, and the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) pulls down the system of anti-Christ in politics. Insha'Allah. In other words, Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) is involved in studies related with faith, while the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) is involved in efforts in regard with world politics. He will have an impact on world leaders, some celebrities in the world as well as the military, through his followers. He will lead a private mission in confidentiality. Bediuzzaman says this is pointed out.

CİHAT GÜNDOĞDU:This is definitely a response to claims of bloodshed and that this will entirely be an intellectual effort.

ADNAN OKTAR:Sure, Said Nursi says, "even a microbe, a cold could kill the body of anti-Christ." Bediuzzaman says, "His thought system is important and the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) will kill his thought system." We also understand from this. Or else there is no putting him down and cutting him into pieces, there is nothing like that. Because both the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) and Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh)have the same nature; they do not shed blood. For instance you also see in the Gospels that the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) did never get his hands into blood. He would have done that for Allah, if required, as a religious obligation, but Allah did not charge him with such duty. So, the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) has not committed such an act. However, the Prophet Moses (pbuh) is not like that at all as well as our Prophet Muhammad (saas); they have also killed. For instance at the time of the Prophet Noah (pbuh), Allah perishes the entire community at once. That is massive killing because only the people inside the ship are kept alive by Allah, and the remaining are entirely killed.

But not even a drop of blood is shed by Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) or the Prophet Jesus (pbuh). People sleeping are not woken up; both are men of compassion. Moreover, our Prophet (saas) gives one detail and says, "not even a nose will bleed." In addition, he says "not a drop of blood is shed" so that others would not claim that "only some blood will be shed." Our Prophet (pbuh) made this clear to prevent allegations like "such odds and ends would come to happen." He said, "not a drop of blood will be shed" and moreover, "he does not wake up the sleeper." Over and above, "even the fish in the sea" and "birds in the sky" are pleased with him. Both are people of love, compassion and mercy and Allah did not assign them with such a duty insha'Allah.

CİHAT GÜNDOĞDU:The greatness of their victory and triumph is hidden in this intellectual struggle insha'Allah, is that right?

ADNAN OKTAR:Yes. There is something unknown in this world. They suppose the greatest weapon is the atom bomb or hydrogen bomb. The greatest weapon is love. No nation or people in the world is able to stand against love. The one who shows love always wins. Since there is no love in Darwinist, materialistic thinking and on the other hand there is cruelty, egoism and selfishness; they are in disadvantage and therefore Allah makes them fail. System of the Mahdi (pbuh) is always based on love, compassion and mercy.