PRESENTER: That is again a relevant topic. ' As-Salamun Alaykom Master'

ADNAN OKTAR: Alaykom as-Salam.

PRESENTER:  In accordance with a materialistic claim, there is nothing called soul. The soul is a function of the brain. The soul has nothing to do with ideas or thoughts. These are all the functions of the brain. Could you please enlighten us by providing information about the soul from the Qur'an? Meral Yildirim from Van."

ADNAN OKTAR: Soul is a topic Darwinists, materialists never get into. In fact, only by having this topic discussed, Darwinists would be defeated immediately and the subject would be closed for good. This is because the soul is not something to be explained by means of material for there is someone who sees and who hears. How can you explain this?

But Allah says; "there is a little information presented to you," about the soul. For instance; people who are watching me now, are watching me in their souls. People hearing me now hear me in their souls. I mean someone, an entity hears in soul.

Now Darwin has no explanations regarding this; nor do the Marxists. They stop at this point. In fact this is the primary topic; the thing we call a person is the being who perceives these. Otherwise, a monkey has eyes and it sees things as well.

Yet, man unique to him says; "I see it," that is he says "I am a being, I exist," so there is consciousness here. Existence of consciousness is the evidence for soul. That is to say, man says that he sees a colorful and shiny world. He says " I hear and I touch." He feels the touch. It is the soul feeling the touch, perceives the smell, and the soul thinks. Therefore the soul is in fact a subject matter that should constantly be put on the agenda but I particularly left it to the very end to discuss. I even said "I am going to drive these Darwinists crazy" but I left it to later on. Since they are so obsessed with matter; if I do not get the matter off their sight, if I do not explain them the reality of the matter; their minds would be stuck there. That is why I proved them the invalidity of Darwinism with 350 million fossils. And I told them that they are incapable of bringing a single intermediary fossil. See that they still can comfortably say that they have found intermediary fossil.. Allah Allah, don't you know my address? 10 million Turkish liras is not a small amount. How nice it is right?   He will come and tell me "this is an intermediary fossil and I found it" and bring me a picture of it. See that I even gave up demanding the fossil itself, only a picture of it would suffice. He is to take the picture and bring it to me and say "here you are my friend, I brought this to you" and put it on the table and we will broadcast it here; that intermediary fossil, that so-called lost ring or whatever they claim to be.   

PRESENTER 2: Beware Master, what if they photo-shop pictures..

ADNAN OKTAR: Even that would be enough, even that is okay. As I do know how I will defeat them on the spot. But see they can't bring it because they know that it would be a lie; since they are certain that it is a lie; since they are 100% sure that it is a lie. I mean how could they lie by looking people in the eye? But it is easy to publish in the paper and move on; but here he has to say that to me by looking me in the eye. He will say "this is an intermediary form" and I will instantly pay him 10 million lira. But we will have a very short conversation.

PRESENTER 1: He won't be able to defend himself.

ADNAN OKTAR: He won't be able to defend as well as he won't be able to bring any. They cannot even dare. How could people find intermediary forms and do not bring? I told once that I was going to buy the whole publications of Risale-i Nur Collection published in 57s and 58s and the other day, I received it instantly. That means they trusted what they had and brought it in. If something exists, then you can bring it in comfort. Or we can find something when we look for. A single intermediary form; I have been inquiring worldwide. We published announcements in newspapers in England. He is just to bring in a single intermediary fossil and take his 10 million Turkish liras. But there isn't any! But they are interestingly comfortable and still keep announcing the fossils in perfect symmetry as intermediary forms despite the fact that those are so splendid in golden ratio that it cannot be explained by means of mutation. Symmetry is distorted if mutation is applied, so is the golden ration. And the symmetry will be disfigured. That is because mutation.. for instance there is a perfect fish tank here, when you hit it with a hammer what would happen? The effect of mutation is the same. I mean by one possibility when you hit with the hammer very very rarely you might have a stylish look. I mean the glass might have an interesting view when it is broken in thin pieces and might look nice. But this is a one in a quadrillion possibility and the general effect is destructive as there will be leaks, and animals would die in time.  Consequently it would not work for perfection. Mutations always distort. Why do they not allow people into x-rays? Why do we avoid x-rays? Why do they not allow pregnant women into x-rays for the health of the child ? It is because it might damage the structure of chromosomes. If it were to have such a positive effect, everyone should be going stand before x-rays, especially pregnant women so that they can have more handsome babies. The same would be relevant for animals, as well. It is always damaging. And it causes a great pathology. If you expose chromosomes to x-ray from a single point; the creature that comes out has a very pathological look. Its head, eye, liver would be all distorted. I mean it has such a destructive effect. Therefore, every fossil they bring claiming that is an intermediary form is actually perfect fossils proving the creation. They can't bring any in, as they all prove creation. We kindly ask them to bring the fossil of an intermediate form they said they brought with them on Haberturk's live program. He had a picture in his hand; he pretends as if he is showing and he takes it back. I am about to resemble that to something but it won't be able appropriate now, it would be weird. This is a very funny and helpless act. I show fossils on tv for a long time. And I take the fossil and place it on the table; we hear the sound of concrete stone. This is the way to show an intermediary fossil as well. What do we say? We say; "We have fossils proving creation." And they remain silent. We instantly refuted all their claims. They can't dare it now around the world. And Muslims are feeling the comfort of that; they say "Mr. Adnan Oktar will defeat them any way." In Islamic world, Muslims feel comfortable as they trust me. Darwinism was a nightmare for Muslims; it was the subject they feared most. That is because they were unable to discuss it, to investigate it because they feared of losing their faith. It was a bitter subject matter for them; it was something they hid in their subconscious. A great number of people weren't able to read about it; you may ask if you want to. Ask the people who lived those days. I mean let them remember their subconscious; they were unable to read about it as they feared of losing their faith. But now, all Muslims -from China to Russia, and to America- they are at ease. They say; "We have our Master anyway, he will rip them away by Allah's will. He'll turn each game of theirs against them". Now, they are challenging Darwinists everywhere, they discuss it as they like. But thanks be to Allah; my friends and I have been instrumental in this, and we still are. For instance, when there is a discussion about Darwinism on Arabic channels; normally they should be calling the Sheiks and scholars of the Al-Azhar, right? They are in the most renown center of the Islamic world but a large amount of their scholars, a considerable amount of them are Darwinists. See that the scholars are Darwinists. They look and see that they cannot seek for their help. Help comes from Istanbul and they come here to interview us and receive our answers on live broadcasts. Of course, our strike is absolute.. In fact, that is same with animals, as well; if an animal is hit by a serious strike, it won't attack again; instead it runs away as it fears. Same is relevant for mountain goats. If it receives a strong strike by someone, it runs away like crazy when it sees him, it climbs up the rocks and watches him from a distance. Now, Darwinists are like that as well. They cannot come any closer as they are hit strong. That's because they will be hit by the same blow again, so they are running away, as a result of instinctive self protection reflex. For instance there is one chubby professor, very chubby. We call him to invite him over so that we can discuss, he is out. He was arrogant, at first. But now he is on the run. There is also a well known British witty with red cheeks, who fancies himself as something; we called him and said "if you know Darwinism too well; if you mastered it; come and discuss it with us". We published our invitation on British papers. There is nothing but silence. Yigit Bulut from Haberturk called him and offered him to pay and invited him over saying "come here and I will have you discuss this point," he was going to have a discussion with me. But he is literally on the run. This is because he received a stroke before; and he doesn't want to receive another one. Can a person agree to come knowing that he will be defeated 100%? And he rejects coming with that instinct. There was Lemecev, he was a Russian boxer, I do not exactly recall whether he was Russian or not. He was knocking out everyone he challenges. At his last game, his opponent rejected to be on the boxing ring. Why? Is the man crazy? Why would he get his face smashed in? That was because his every blow ended with a knockout. He was finishing it all with one strike. And now these have the same fear. They see me as if I am a Bonavena, a Lemecev. I mean they say; "he will knock us out. Therefore, let's not face him". But despite that, they stealthily try to influence the ignorant. Even the kids, at the age of 7 or so, are aware of that. As a result, we put away the legend of Dawkins as well. Before this, they used to have a great respect for him all around the world; they used to praise him as the great Darwinist intellectual in British and French papers. But now, no one cares. They see him as a showman, an entertainer who makes jokes to entertain people. For instance, sometimes they have debate programs about me; he just explains how he eats the bait I left to fish him. I explained this before. While I was preparing the book, I used the photo of a model of an animal, I mean not the original one, but a model placed on a hook. In fact I knew that he will get the hook eventually. I guessed and prepared the bait for him actually and published the book in that way; he took the bait with a great excitement; and he made the book famous all around the world. He said: "this is a plastic animal on a hook." In fact it is exactly the same with the original animal. They are identical, but I didn't publish the original but the plastic model. He started announcing "He used the plastic model"; as if it is a crime, as if he caught something. In a book having hundreds of pages; he found nothing to criticize scientifically, that is he was finished from all sides, but with the excitement of finding a hook, he introduced the book to the world. That is to say our little fish was on the hook, eventually. In fact I have placed it especially with a hook so that he wouldn't have any means to object. He is the kind of person who can easily be hooked and we are having results. When I do something in two or three stages and I receive results, I really enjoy it. It is very nice to have a result in this one; as well.