ADNAN OKTAR: Look now do you know what it is that we want? They should say openly that this is a Marxist, Leninist, materialist movement and it is a movement of the dajjal (anti-Christ). Well they don't have to mention anti-Christ, they can leave that to us; there is no need for them to say anti-Christ. They can bring scientists as a scientific struggle is required against the Marxist ideology. I see this in our statesmen -I do not want to say it now but-  as they bring the subject out and just when they are on the related issue they say; "This of course has sociological aspects." Just say "This is a communist movement," just say it, my beloved statesmen. My dearest, I beg you not to do so..  He says, "Of course, the social aspects of this struggle must be considered as well." My beloved statesman; instead of talking about its social aspects, just say openly; "This movement is a communist movement, a Leninist movement and so the state should strive against this in an intellectual, scientific and detailed manner." What happens if you say this? Right?

OKTAR BABUNA:However, you prove it with very straight evidences. The leader of the terrorist organization has statements as he says, "I am the Lenin of this time." He is saying this himself. He says that he is a Darwinist and that PKK is a communist movement. What more can he say?

ADNAN OKTAR: My brother, if the movement were not a communist one, it could not be so sturdy and systematic. Some of our statesmen suggest solutions as I come across from time to time. They say, "Your mothers are waiting for you, my son. You are doing wrong. Why do you go up to the mountains? You are doing oppression. How could you kill people? How could you kill without pity? The hot soup of your mothers is waiting for you. If you want to get married, come and we will get you married so that this ends." Come on my brother, as if they are mocking us. These are very abnormal statements; do not do it. Those are communists; what does that have to do with marriage? Soup and such; what will he do with the soup? Right?

REPORTER:They are trying to make it look like an ordinary attack.

ADNAN OKTAR: Of course, of course. What does that have to do with his mother's soup? The man leaves his mother and goes to the mountains. And they put their lives at stake; they are dying every day; eight or ten people.. Would they do something like this to get married or for soup? Right? Considering this as unimportant causes events to progress even more in the Southeast. This enlarges its diameter and makes them even angrier while causing them to claim that they are right. They say, "Look how right we are. We are putting up an intellectual struggle and they cannot come up against us." They say "We are putting up an intellectual struggle." Because when they talk about Marxism, they explain it by giving it a scientific appearance.