ADNAN OKTAR:Erdal Karakas. "Master, I do love you and I congratulate you. You works are very rightful and true. I think that Allah chose you and that your are laying the ground for Hazrat Mahdi (a.s.) and that you are a student of Hazrat Mahdi (a.s.)." He says; "I am very sure of this and I would like to meet you in person. Insha'Allah we can meet. With respect and love. In addition, I am following you for a long time. Mr Adnan Oktar, I believe that very little time is left for the appearance of Mahdi.  I think that Allah will first give him material power." Give material power to whom?. No, no, no. You do not know Erdal. Hazrat Mahdi (a.s.) has nothing to do with money. Did our Prophet (saas) have money? Did the Prophet Moses (a.s.) have money? Allah gives the money necessary for struggle, that is a different issue. For that reason, Hazrat Mahdi (a.s.).. This would be a mindset of ignorance. "First money should come so that Islam can  progress after that." There is no such thing. When I came from Ankara, I was a normal member of a normal family.

But look, I am shaking the world. Allah makes me shake the world. Allah shakes the world and makes me an instrument. I moved the earth. Bad lots, hypocrites, crooks, communists, atheists, look, they are all in dismay right now. I became their only target. Alhamdulillah. What an honor, what an honor.. Look at the pages of atheist masons, I am the only target. Visit the pages of Darwinists, I am the only target. I am the only target of the communists. Visit the websites of hypocrites, I am the only target. They do not mention anyone else. I would be proud. They can come five or ten at a time. Insha'Allah.

They do not know that they are defeated within destiny. Since they do not know destiny and since they cannot appreciate the power of Allah, they imagine that the world is independent from Allah and that they can act as they like. And they are constantly defeated to a system they do not know. The system they do not know is Allah. Allah defeats them. For example, did it every cross Darwinists' minds that they would be defeated? And in the 21st century; and in such a horrible way, by feeling so humiliated. Right? Look, I roughed them up.

OKTAR BABUNA: Master, there is a famous, prominent evolutionist in America; Kenneth Miller. A friend of ours who went there called him on the phone and said "I would like to attend your meeting."  When talking over the phone, he just said as he asked; "I came from Turkey, Istanbul," he hung up the phone saying "I am not teaching evolution." Your name is not even mentioned. Just when he said; "Turkey and Istanbul."

ADNAN OKTAR: Tell this once more from the beginning.

OKTAR BABUNA: There is Kenneth Miller in Brown University, one of the most prominent evolutionists of the world Master. A friend of our calls him when he goes to America. He says "I would like to come and meet you." He does not say who he is. He does not mention evolution at all. He just says "I want to join your class, one of your meetings." Our friend only says this: "I came from Turkey. I will not stay for long. Istanbul..." And he said "I am not teaching evolution" and hung up the phone.

ADNAN OKTAR: When Istanbul is mentioned, "Adnan" comes to his mind. When "Adnan" comes to his mind, the man who destroys evolution comes to his mind. By the leave of Allah. by the leave of Allah. They can shiver. They will shiver. We will solve this through science and knowledge and love. It has nothing to do with money or so, brother Erdal. Allah sends the necessary money, He does that. For example, when our Prophet (saas) was spreading Islam, they  needed  an amount and Allah constantly sent the exact amount they just needed. But there is no need to sit and wait for money. There is no need to wait for the means. You walk and as you walk, your path will open. There is a wrong thought here. "First comes money and possessions and then we begin the struggle". There is no need for that. You walk fast with all your strength and you will see that your path opens as you proceed. What does Almighty Allah say in the verse? Allah says that He will come one more to those who come one step closer to Him. Insha'Allah.

OKTAR BABUNA: You gave an example from your life Master. With the money you have had at that time, even though your trousers were worn off, you said that you have fixed it with glue and that you bought and distributed books and brochures with that money. Masha'Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: By the leave of Allah, by the leave of Allah. For example, look, show me which one was the brochure that we distributed..

OKTAR BABUNA:It was here Master.

ADNAN OKTAR:Is it among these?  

OKTAR BABUNA: Allah knows the truth yes.

ADNAN OKTAR:Yes, whatever, we have shown it yesterday.

OKTAR BABUNA:It should be there somewhere.

ADNAN OKTAR: It should be there.. Oktar, you wouldn't blame us if we cannot find it, would you?..Yes, whatever..  Look, in that time, in those harsh conditions, Almighty Allah gave me quite a lot of money. There was an inheritance from my aunt, about 120 billion with today's money, I mean the amount on my portion was 120 billion. I distributed 120 billion worth books. The year is 86-87. Look, 120 billion. I hung posters on all the buffets in Istanbul, saying "Free brochures are distributed here." I got them all distributed. This was the first time we were effective. I intended for it. Allah granted it. Look, we sent the Atlas of Creation everywhere in Europe. Many thanks to Allah.

OKTAR BABUNA: Masha'Allah Master, shall I show it? It is seven kilos. It has been sent to all artists, sportsmen, statesmen and bureaucrats.

ADNAN OKTAR: We reached all of them.

OKTAR BABUNA: It reached everyone Master masha'Allah. Hundred thousands of them. Masha'Allah.