ADNAN OKTAR: Oktar let's listen to you.

OKTAR BABUNA:Astagfirullah Master. There was an article with the title "What was behind the incident at Tophane?" Master. It is Ali Sirmen's article. This incident is still considered as the most important news in papers like Cumhuriyet and columnists have all written about this issue. Ali Sirmen says ; "This is a reactionary attack" Master.

ADNAN OKTAR:"Reactionary attack ", what happened at Tophane?

OKTAR BABUNA: There was a attack towards the guests at an art gallery Master. It was not enlightened exactly what it was.

ADNAN OKTAR: At Tophane?

OKTAR BABUNA:At Tophane, yes. It is said to have started by the youngsters of the neighborhood.

ADNAN OKTAR: Tophane is full of courageous men. When one says Tophane first courageous men come to the mind. A brave man would not do such stuff or attack anyone; touch anyone. In Turkey with its population of 70 millions, that is an ordinary incident, which could easily come across. I mean, attributing this incident to the whole of Turkey; saying "reaction turned from the grave" and so forth.. What are we going to say about the attack of communists, of the PKK? What are we going to say the attack of communists? We might as well say: "Communism rose from the grave." And we have evidence for that. But is there evidence as to political reaction? For once, let them see if those people who attacked have anything to do with religion. Right? I mean, if their statements will be taken; let them see and ask how many of them are performing their prayers?

They should let this go; they are behaving very shamefully.  Ali Sirmen; is he that man whose eyes were wide open the other day? Let me look; is he the same person?

Oktar, do you have his picture?

Yes that is the gentleman, yes. This uncle Ali is very aggressive and angry. He' s been raving whenever I see him. I wonder if he can be more reasonable and calm?

OKTAR BABUNA:He can be Master insha'Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: Insha'Allah. He was a bit calmer the other say but when he opens his eyes widely like that children can be scared. There is no need to yell and rave. My brother, the man might drink and attack. For instance they raid clubs and casinos, they shoot men and all, and then claiming that "political reaction rose from the grave".. What does it have to do with it? Right? In Antalya and Alanya, etc. people draw guns and raid night clubs etc. and they make such scenes; we hear this very often. The man might raid an exhibition or any other place; he might get into a state of exaltation and do such things. It would be very strange to relate this to political reaction, I mean, to Islam.

There are "Muslims" who are terrorists, I mean that might happen; but in fact all Muslims are against this. I mean the Qur'an does not accept this anyway. For example, three or five people raid the congress of our Master Erbakan, I mean his dinner; and they claim that the "Men of Master Erbakan raided." It is very shameful to attempt to attribute something to one person, one faith or one thought. Why would a Muslim need to raid an exhibition? There are exhibitions all over the world and Turkey; the pubs are also open, tea houses are also open, everywhere is open; no one is bothering the others. Muslims defend freedom; no one can intervene with the other's business. There is no compulsion in religion; the commands of the religion are out in the open. Therefore making such insincere statements are very wrong. I mean who knows? Who could ever know if it is the so-called Ergenekon Organization who organized such a provocation or not? Who knows if those people are the distant relatives of our uncle Ali here, or not? Who knows if those people are distant acquaintances of Mr.Aydin, or not? Right? They might at least be his friends from the neighborhood. It is against the Qur'an to attribute this to Islam. Our Book is the Qur'an. We lead our lives with the information we acquire from the Qur'an, right? And from the Age of Bliss. Was there such an incident in the Age of Bliss? No. Does it have a place in the Qur'an? No. Why would we concern ourselves with those ignorant people do? Why do they attribute this to Islam, right?  Communists and other jackals are making scenes everywhere continuously. When they should make those an issue, to attribute such incidents happening here and there, which we could call provocative- or what are we to say? -events and words, to Muslims is shameful. They should put an end it. Such things are unseemly.