Excerpt from Mr. Adnan Oktar's Live Interview on Adiyaman Asu TV dated January 24th, 2011
ADNAN OKTAR: A friend wrote from Germany. "Master, my message did not reach you again. Am I sending it to the wrong place, I wonder? But I will send another e-mail" he says. "Master why were we not created directly in Paradise?" he says. If you had been created directly in Paradise, you would not appreciate the value of Paradise. That seat would have no meaning for you. The car would have no meaning for you. Forks and spoons would have no meaning for you. You would not enjoy anything. You would not understand the most of it, a very large part of it. You cannot love a brave person because of his bravery. You cannot love a loyal person for his loyalty. You cannot love a courageous person for his courage. You cannot find a generous person then. You cannot find a martyr who loves the Prophet (saas) and who gave his life in the path of Allah and the Prophet (saas). You can only find plain people, normal people. The power of Paradise would be broken a great deal then. As a matter of fact; Almighty Allah reveals the story of the Prophet Adam (pbuh) to show us that fact. Allah puts the Prophet Adam (pbuh) in Paradise and satan is there as well. Almighty Allah says; "eat, drink, get comfortable, but there is that tree here, you will not touch the fruit of that tree, you will not eat from there, other than that you can eat any fruit you want, do whatever you want". What would a person do in such an environment? He would be in a great joy, would he not? The Prophet Adam (pbuh) is not happy there; there is not enough happiness because he was not trained on Earth. He did not get that deepness; he did not get that strength. Satan comes to him and says; "if you do not eat this fruit you cannot be infinite. Allah said that you will be infinite but let me tell you, if you do not eat that fruit you cannot be infinite." He needs to trust in Allah, but he trusts satan. He goes and eats that fruit there. Allah instantly takes away their clothes; I mean they cannot see the clothes they have on; the clothes of Paradise. They reach out for the tree leaves and cover themselves. The Prophet Adam (pbuh) and Eve; they both ate at the same time and they covered the naked parts of their bodies. And Almighty Allah sends them down to Earth, to the dimension of this world. They went to Paradise after they were trained here. Ask the Prophet Adam (pbuh); "are you happy now or were you happy before?" If his happiness was one percent when he was there the first time, it became 1000 after being trained, after his training on Earth. After that he takes pleasure from everything. He would take pleasure from the chair, from the bed, from conversation. That is because he saw pain, he saw suffering and hardship. He would enjoy everything. It is the same in the world as well. For example a person who does not experience difficulty, does not know love. A person who does not know pain, does not know love. People who do know pain, hardship and suffering would have more quality and be smarter. Go and look at people who have never experienced pain and see what that has turned them int. They do not understand love and deepness; they become something else. Therefore, the training in this world is very essential. Why would the man find leaning on a sofa pleasing in Paradise? Allah says; "They are leaning on sofas." A person who knows fatigue knows the value of leaning on a sofa. If he does not know that feeling there no such need in Paradise anyway; why would he lean on a sofa? The person cannot forget; he will not forget that it is nice to lean on that sofa for all eternity. For example, let's assume Beril; we are together in Paradise insha'Allah. We would not forget the sacrifices she did, her superiorities and her struggle in the way of Allah for all eternity. She also would not forget my struggle for all eternity. She would never forget the bravery, patience, determination and willpower, generosity and everything there is. She would never forget any of those. That is the reason why she would love even more. Otherwise I would be a very plain person; a very plain person. She would have been a plain person as well. Allah does not like this. Allah likes rich beauties; Allah likes richness in beauty and He wants rich beauty. Therefore there is no method other than this one. I have thought about this; I've thought about it very deeply; this is the perfect method, there could be no other method better than this. I mean there is no other method complying with the human mind; this is the method. This is the way of happiness; this is the way of enjoying Paradise as well. This is the way of being the perfect human being and rich beauty. There isn't any other way. There is no other way. And Allah tests people perfectly, for example with resistance to pain and fears. For example, this trial is the reason why Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) becomes prominent among seven billion people. For example Allah creates Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) as a beauty. The beauty of the world without Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) would be missing. Allah sends the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) and we feel great enthusiasm and excitement. If you ask people "Would you take more pleasure from food or from the coming of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh)?" The coming of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) would give more excitement. Allah creates such pleasures and beauties and enriches the world. For instance in such an unexpected environment; for instance the Unity of Islam was not expected at all in the world. Right? It was not expected. Look it will prevail loudly. This would excite people very much. [It is like] A rose blossoming in the least expected place, let's say in coal tar. Allah creates astonishing things. For instance, Allah makes Islam prevail throughout the world with a very small group. Allah destroys a very giant group, for instance. Such a great thing should not be destroyed. For instance communism shouldn't have been destroyed in Russia; but Allah destroyed it. Did communism seem like it was going to be destroyed? It was not expected. It seemed as if it was going to swallow the whole world. It collapsed suddenly. The system of the Mahdi; is it possible to rule seven billion people with a hundred or three hundred people? Here it is, it's been made possible. Allah does this as a miracle. Allah decorates things and creates beauties. For example a martyr; he is shot in the middle of his forehead in the way of Allah; this is a beauty. We ask him in Paradise "Why were you martyred?" He says "I was martyred in the way of Allah." How would you love such a person in Paradise? In any other case; this one comes, you ask; "What are you?" He says "Nothing." You ask "What did you do?" He says "I did not do anything. I am a plain person." You can love him just as much as a plain person could be loved. It would not be the same as the love for a martyr. You love the martyr much much more. Because this one goes knowing that he would be martyred; he guesses that, gives possibility that it might happen; but despite of this he puts his life in the middle for Allah. He even gets shot and agonizes sometimes, for example for five or six hours. He continuously says "Allah Allah. La ilahe illa Allah. La ilahe illa Allah Muhammad ar-Rasul Allah." Now would this person be the same as the other one? Would the love be the same? You would love that person much more. For example I do love Ilayda. Why do I love her? She is a noble girl, a quality person. Had she been a superficial, ordinary person I wouldn't have loved her. That is clear. Right? For instance I value her. I respect her. Why? That is because she is a quality person with a strong personality. Even the smallest thing makes great difference. I would not see her if she were a superficial person. For example, you as well, she is also like that. Why would I speak otherwise? Why would I?
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