Excerpt from Mr. Adnan Oktar's Live Interview on Cay TV and Kanal Avrupa dated December 5th, 2010
ADNAN OKTAR: If the students of Nur were not in Turkey, if we were not here, and if there were only a Cubbeli model of Islam in Turkey; America would want that a lot. She would want it very much, then Turkey would become exactly a candidate for an operation. It would be just like they would want it to be. Evangelicals would want that a lot. Those who prepare the Great Middle East Project would want that a lot. Atheist masons would want it completely, communists would want it completely. There are many people who would want that. Because when one presents such a thought, they will remain as a very small marginal group in society, very small. It will almost be a community who lives in a small neighborhood in the style called as ghetto. They will remain strange for the others, for instance people go and look at them in that neighborhood saying; "Look there are such people. This is a characteristic of our Turkey. Let us show you". So they go, have a look and come back. Well, I consider those people living there free of this as they are my brothers and sisters and I love all of them very much. It is so easy for such a mentality to be defeated; place Cubbeli in front of a Darwinist-materialist and Cubbeli would be crashed and destroyed instantly. Or get him to face university students. For example let students from Istanbul and Bosphorus University gather around; fifty or one hundred people, he would be destroyed. But everyone knows what will happen if I come out, right? Or if my friends come out, everyone knows what will happen.. We would kick up a dust of the opposing thought.
Additionally the Cubbeli mentality ensures the ideology with most suitable appearance for an operation to Turkey. Therefore they are underhandedly trying to make him seem sympathetic. Because if the mentality of Cubbeli were dominant; now let us assume that America wants to organize an operation and thinks about it. They will say; "What is here? What is the thought of Muslims?" They will speak with Pentagon and with other confederates as well. "These are against Alewis and they want to kill them. They also want to massacre Wahabis. They also want to murder Baktashis, Shia and Jaffaris and all of them. They want to slaughter Evangelicals as well. They want to slaughter Christians, Othodox and Catholics and all of them. They want to slaughter Jews as well and if they happen to have the means somehow they will destroy us. What have you to say about that my friends?" if the man asks. There would be no one opposing that. The American people would support and the European people would support as well. This would become a very reasonable belief for an operation. No one could oppose. This is very very convincing. And if he says; "look this is what they will turn you into, in the end." This would become something completely different. Therefore America, I acquit Cubbeli from that, underhandedly supports the Taliban in Afghanistan. That is because without the thought of Taliban, without such an idea, Afghanistan could not be invaded. For instance, there was the need for a mentality like the Saddam model in Iraq. So they turned the people into Saddam first. They mixed the mentality of Cubbeli and Saddam in Iraq. And they turned it into a form which America can easily organize an operation and which the people would support [such an operation]. I mean they formed cheap heroes in that period. I acquit Cubbeli in person but I mean as a system of thought. For instance, an American woman, I believe with a parachute landed on a very unexpected point in Iraq. All people there were looking for that woman in swamps with sticks in their hands. I do not know exactly which region it was; but [those irritating] men with their yellow teeth and big sticks in their hands were looking for her as they were going to beat her to death if they found her. There was an incredible excitement and enthusiasm. They said "Americans can come. We will deal with them. Nothing would happen." They said "They will see what we can do if they come. We prepared everything". American invasion began and the army was instantly nowhere to be found. Here is the way people of such mentality would act in such a situation. I mean, when they see any difficulty, the bravery and heroism that you assume they have would immediately be gone. Cubbeli is also talking about this in many of his conversations. He says "We are cowards," etc. There are many such videos of him, let's prepare those. Actually he is telling the truth and he is talking sincerely. I mean he does not say it out of modesty. He is describing what he actually is. Therefore, for America to invade a country, they certainly need such fanatical, bigot mentalities based on superstitions; that are unscientific, that do not carry the determination of defeating Darwinism and materialism, which do not want Unity of Islam, timid, weak and which do not take signs leading to faith as basis; I mean which do not predicate on spreading information that will increase the love and attachment for Allah. Therefore, when they make a comparison, they then come to believe in their rightfulness. In that case; it both becomes very easy to invade that country and after such an invasion, may Allah forbid, there would be no resistance. I mean there would be no resistant people left. They thus get results very quickly.
For instance, they have put forward such famous leaders throughout the world. These are all men who were trained in CIA in the past; they are people trained by CIA. When these people are put forward; their rightfulness is confirmed by the public opinion. For instance, Osama Bin Laden and other individuals.. When he mentions those names; I mean the man says "Look this is a man who came out with a rifle in his hand". He says “This man thinks about destroying Christians, he thinks about destroying Jews and all of the other religious sects and he only aims for blood. Look, you saw that they collapsed the twin towers, they bomb everywhere, they bomb innocent people, they burn and destroy, these people are not joking," they say. Of course, I am not saying that Cubbeli is doing this, that he is defending this but this is another form and style of Cubbeli mentality. And consequently they feel the need for such a mentality in order to invade a country. If there were not such a model in Afghanistan, for example, if there were an Islamic mentality which adopted a quality approach, let's say like the model of Nur students or the model of our Suleymanli brothers- it would not matter- I mean a classical, decent, reasonable model, one that avoids corruption- there would be no such thing. America cannot invade such a country and cannot mold a public opinion accordingly. Public opinion is very important, molding a public opinion.. That is why America is squirming at the moment because she could not invade Turkey, because she could not invade Iran, because she could not form disorder in the region and because she could not implement the Great Middle East Project. They want to form a mass of people, a fierce, aggressive, ignorant, let us say not sympathetic, I mean who seems to be sympathetic but actually is not sympathetic model of Muslims. And they use some certain people to this end. Cubbeli has good intentions but he is serving this mentality without realizing it. He does not even know. For example, I can increase the examples but this explanation already clarifies the subject.
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