ADNAN OKTAR: Furthermore it is the same for Jews and Christians as well. For instance let us say that 3 Jewish students came to a school. Saying "O the Jews came, these people are cursed!".. Okay, Almighty Allah cursed, but He cursed the ones who did that act. How could a whole nation be cursed? Right? You just look at what Almighty Allah said. Almighty Allah would of course, curse the one that goes astray.  What blame do these children have?  [Some claim that] Woods, stones, trees would call out "there is a Jew behind me, kill him." [Claiming that] There is no need to interrogate or to question; the man would hear a voice coming from a stone, he would say "I heard it!" and rip them apart, kill that Jewish person on the spot. We will ask them; "Why have you killed him?" He will respond; "A voice came from the stone". That is psychopathic behavior my brother, this is crazy, is it not?

The man would say.. -for instance, a Jewish kid would be walking around, a small, little, adorable child; you know them they are very sweet- .. that man for instance would go and behead that little kid. "Why did you do that you fellow man?" He would say "A voice came from the tree, I heard it." You will say "Where did you come up with that?" He would say "there is a hadith of our Prophet (saas)"

You would only become an assassin by that. You just become a murderer. That is because that one has no fault. The reward for such an act is defined in the Qur'an; such a person would remain in Hell for whole eternity.  No one should do something that stupid; they ought to be wise. No one should give way to such persecution. Those hadiths, those explanations are said certainly with wisdom. First of all stones cannot talk anyway, neither can woods. That is against the law of Allah. What could happen? By the use of the technology of the End Times, for instance there might be a camera embedded inside the rock or inside a tree. As a matter of fact these are used in South East, hidden cameras are used against PKK. They embed cameras inside the trees, inside the rocks and this technology is used to trace the activities of PKK.  This hadith draws attention to the technology used in the End Times. In order to determine the location if an aggressive hostile comes along. Furthermore if you get hold of such a person you could also make him captive. If he had attacked you, if he had intended to kill you would protect yourself. But if the man surrenders then you would take him as a slave. There is no such thing as killing him in any case.

For instance the man intends to kill him, pulls out a gun, he shoots.. The other man has his own gun, his own licensed gun. But is there the need to fire a bullet to his head, once he is neutralized? Saying "what can I do? I felt like.. " That is not acceptable. Almighty Allah says; ".. do not go beyond the limits."You have neutralized the man. That is it, once you get them neutralized there should be no problem. This is not only for Jews but for everyone; it could be applied for the irreligious and for the atheists as well. For instance one might be a Muslim but he attacks, he might be a psychopath and he attacks; you will again be charged with self-defense. Doesn't a Muslim kill another Muslim in Turkey at the moment? Are the people in prisons not Muslims, am I mistaken? Muslims are killing Muslims. That is wrong, such a thing is not acceptable. It is clearly understood that it is a hadith told by our Prophet (saas) to draw attention to the technology in the End Times.  That is because it is applied in practice. I mean it was said to implicate that in modern wars, such a technical method would be used in self defense; that is it. It could be that one attacks and says; "I am coming to invade your country." This could be a Jew, this could be anyone, it could be a Christian or an irreligious person, it doesn't matter.  He says "I am coming". We respond; "okay, come if you like". He says "I came" and you would respond "What do you want?" He says; "I will kill you." Then you take him down, you neutralize him. I mean you do not have to kill him. You just defend yourself insha'Allah. May Allah forbid, may Allah forbid, if the soldiers are left helpless, then they go for combat.  There should be no other way out, I mean no second way. Then it would of course be lawful. But may Allah forbid that. 

PRESENT:Master, pardon my intrusion, retaliation might be the pertinent response here, is it not Master?

ADNAN OKTAR:Of course, I mean now the man comes with a gun in his hand and he is shooting for instance and it even hits your foot. The man is going to kill you, he is determined to do so. What could one do? Tell me if there is another way. May Allah forbid, in that condition it would be lawful for a soldier to defend himself. I mean if there is a hot war, what else could be done? I mean that is valid in all religions, it is lawful in Christianity, lawful in Islam, it is lawful in Judaism, self-defense is lawful in all religions. One would protect himself when he is obliged to. But there would not be such a thing in the times of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh), thanks be to Allah, Alhamdulillah. Blood is unwanted. We should not want blood, we should stay away from blood.  Let us seek refuge with Allah from blood. Almighty Allah does not want even a drop of blood. Look what he [Our Prophet (saas)] says; "He [Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh)] would not shed a drop of blood, would not awake a sleeper. Not even the noses of the people would ever bleed." What is the ideal? It is to turn this world into a place like Paradise. The purpose of Islam is not blood and gunpowder. What Allah wants for us is to live nicely in peace, to live in joy, to love and to be loved. Peace is essential. Allah calls the Paradise "Abode of peace". Is there war in the Paradise? No. Is there any killings? No. Why? Because it is called the Paradise. That means the ideal life is the life in Paradise. Since the ideal life is in Paradise, then we will try to turn this world into a Paradise. Blood, pus, fire is in the Hell. I mean an environment like gunpowder, smell of sulphur, this and that. Is that understood?

Consequently no one should give credit to people acting as cheap heroes saying "let's cut the Jews, Christians, let's chop them up." Such people are acting as if they are in favor of blood, in favor of hanging and cutting in order to have themselves accepted in the society and to be seen as pious and thus they attract some gullible people to their side. They say; "That is a hodja who does not make compromises, he doesn't compromise from religion." What does compromise have to do with blood? The man constantly says "I want blood." You are to want peace. Our Prophet (saas) had always been calming by making treaties all the time. Our Prophet (saas) always tried to refrain from war. He had trenches dug for instance, he dug trenches and he went for defense. I mean he is after getting rid of the enemies. Why would one dig trenches? The man would attack and they are doing that to escape from them. Combat is the last resort, may Allah forbid. Only then it would be lawful for the soldiers. I mean when there is no other way.  For instance PKK, they come and rake with machine guns, they bomb etc. they say "we will kill". What would soldiers do when there is no other solution? They warn them. They make statements warning them not to act like this, make announcement with microphones. Look they call them to retreat. They call them to retreat numerous times. The men respond with fire. Nevertheless they catch them by injuring them the most. May Allah forbid, combat is the least wanted thing, it is the most avoided one, insha'Allah. There is no need to act as cheap heroes insha'Allah.