ADNAN OKTAR: "As-salamun alaykom my dear Master. For a long time now I have been watching your program every evening with same attention and excitement. May Allah give you strength. I am a great admirer of your program and fortitude," he says. Yes..  But Muslims must in any case be patient with one another. Look, for instance we have just seen that little one here.. People around her say whatever comes into their heads. The law of the jungle rules in some parts of the world, with people hurting one another, stepping on one another, rejecting and humiliating one another is common in many parts of the world. Verbal dispute as they call it, quarreling..  But there can be no quarreling in the manner of a Muslim. With a bit of patience one can win these fine people over, and they become people more filled with love for Muslims, Allah and the Qur'an. Or else that would be done by the irreligion in which case, may Allah forbid, they would fall into the hands of irreligion, and that is a terrible thing. Our Prophet (saas) debated and spoke with the pagans of Mecca, with the Jews, he spoke with Christians, and there were Buddhists and he spoke with them. There were very difficult, unpleasant people. Right?

I encountered utterly unbelievable cases during my years at the Academy. Not just one or two or ten, either. My students were like that as well, while I was teaching them they gave me a real hard time. I have educated them very difficultly. It took great time, I mean it was not that easy. Isn't that right, Berker?

ALTUĞ BERKER: Master, that is very true. It is very obvious how hard it is to educate one person and you did that for hundreds..

ADNAN OKTAR: I could train some of my followers in five years and some in ten years.. I had cases like that. Some were very talented and corrected themselves in a very short period of time. They have changed at once. For instance, with Beril as well, I have been talking to her for a long time, her manners, her behaviors, her speech, everything about her has changed after a while. I mean she is not my follower, she is a sister to us who always comes to us, but she reads my books, she is affected by my addresses and advice, and consequently if you pay attention her look and her expressions, speech, language, tone of voice and logic all improved, didn't they? Her judgment and conception of patience changed. She has become much better.  She is looking at life in a better way, in a manner more filled with love.  It is the same for this beautiful one here, and for my dear here, she came here with her sister, they are almost identical and both are very sweet, very cute.. I do like seeing such siblings who look very much like each other. And it is very nice for sisters to watch over each other, to be beside each other and go everywhere together. And we also have another very sweet lady friend, we will meet her tomorrow or maybe the day after.

Look what a sinful manner, what a ruthless kind of language.. I mean with such an attitude irreligion grows like seaweed. How is that possible?  What kind of logic is that?  Look, he says; "Master for the sake of Allah, the person you have faced is.."  I mean, that is not okay, that is not acceptable.. Whatever..

Well, in essence, a Muslim must definitely be patient and moderate and rational. The other way is very dreadful. What will happen then? There will be no Muslims at all. Beware of that. That would be a grave insanity.   

I have spoken with freemasons for instance. Masons were the people I was most careful about previously, people would know.. I have written the book Judaism and Freemasonry. It was one of my main targets in my intellectual struggle. I am still striving against atheist masons, at the moment. But I have seen that some masons are very pleasant and agreeable people and there is no need to be terrified of the word freemason, to say that they rule the world, that they conduct ceremonies, that they can do cruel things, that they can bring in a dangerous substance, that they can damage our brains. I mean, those would be very much exaggerated attempts. No such thing would happen. In fact, we have spoken with them and by that we have won over hundreds or thousands of masons. A great love has grown up in their hearts. They came here and prayed with our colleagues, didn't they? In the other way, are we going to surrender the world to irreligion and the dajjal (anti-messiah)? How could such a thing be acceptable? If you are going to oppose masons, Jews, atheists, communists, the ignorant, different schools etc. etc. Then how many people you will be left with? You will be left with two or three thousand at most. There are 7 billion people in the world. Beware of that! That is out of the question. That will do great harm to Islam.

They need to be shown a moderate and reasonable language. Ms. Tuba, for instance, is a sweet, very polite girl in my opinion.. Actually I should be talking to very puckish people in front of everyone and show everyone a style to adopt. Show them how could one talk to such people, how could they be convinced, how could their flaws be corrected..  This is the thing I should be doing. But since people watching would be very much alerted, I am not doing this. Or else, I could debate with communists and atheists here as well. Furthermore I could do that with people who really are cut loose, such people who look like they could not come to any good.. Actually I do want to show people how even those people could be designed, by the leave of Allah. But as you see, my supporters are be really alarmed by that.  That is why I do not do that, in order not to upset them. But I do speak with them at private meetings.

I mean it is not easy to train people. For instance, with our brothers who write to us, if I were to talk to them, they too have some flaws as well. I mean that would call for great patience as well. Of course, that is something that needs to be done. Pagans came to the Prophet Abraham (pbuh) and said; "I worship the Moon." Someone else said, "I worship the Sun." I mean those people do not actually leave it at that, they say that they worship the Moon but their logical framework is totally flawed. You say "white" and they say "black". You say "this is beautiful" and they say "it is raining". They are like crazy; they are totally imbalanced. But the Prophet Abraham (pbuh) spoke with them. He won them over and made them his own people. The same with the Prophet Noah (pbuh). The people the Prophet Noah (as) spoke to were mad as hatters. They were psychopaths. And that was not for one, ten or a hundred years. It took hundreds of years, life spans were very long in those days. Life spans subsequently became shorter. He talked to them for hundreds of years. They constantly used an unpleasant, bad-tempered and stubborn kind of language. Against all these the Prophet Noah (as) kept at it.

Our Prophet (saas) spoke in the Ukas market, to the pagans and hypocrites there. These people were not respectful, polite and decent towards Prophet (saas). They were all horrible types, immoral and tactless. But the Messenger of Allah (saas) treated them with respect, patience and he was very rational towards them. Why do we love the Messenger of Allah (saas)? Because of his moral virtue. For that reason, the other is not acceptable. There is no question of Muslims only talking to other Muslims. One has to be warm and reasonable, and not try to move too fast. Every stage is different. At first meeting, for instance, you want to overcome that general excitement, panic and tension on that person. I mean they will thus realize that you are reasonable and feel secure and they will come to believe that your language will be loving and respectful. I mean they will believe that they will be faced with a decent manner. For instance in my manners there is never rudeness and there would be no offence in the way I speak. I tell the truth in a very roundabout way, without ever offending that person, but I certainly give the necessary response to that.  Insha'Allah. But the same response could be given in an offensive way as well, I mean using harsh and hurtful language. There is the moderate way of talking and it is also possible to give those responses to that person without making them sense it, without hurting them. The best way is to respond without giving offense. Otherwise you would be watching them going to the other side, how is that unacceptable? It is not acceptable. Insha'Allah.