Excerpt from Mr. Adnan Oktar's Live Interview on Kackar TV dated January 28th, 2011
ADNAN OKTAR: But all of our brothers should know this subject I've explained very well. This is a vital secret people need to know in this world. I mean, not knowing this, does not suit the humanity of a human being. We can in no way see the matter in its original form. This is a scientific fact. Both the irreligious and the religious should accept this. Matter is transparent outside. This is something everyone says in agreement and it is completely dark outside. There is no light outside. Color, light and the image of the mass of matter not being transparent are created by Allah inside the brain. And it is like a tape; like a cassette placed inside the tape, this image continuously flows. The image is constantly flowing at this very moment as well. It is never cut. At the moment of death, this image, this elliptical screen is opened all at once like a curtain. Allah says "That day the curtain is opened." Then a sharper, a new image begins; sharper and clearer. There the Azrael [The Angel of Death] (pbuh) will come as a very very beautiful person; they come as a committee. They express that they have come to take his life in a very courteous, kind and loving manner. The believer would be very inclined due to that clarity, beauty and comfort. But what his family there; the body people there see in that dimension has nothing to do with him. People think that people see the soul there or something would happen there; but they see nothing. The man for instance can yell and scream but none of those are valid. Because he enters into a different realm; as the difference between the body here and the body there is very great. There is no connection in between. That body there is like a mass of flesh and bones acting on the third alter ego. The developments in that body there would have no meaning. The real one is the conversations that person has in the new dimension he had entered into. What I've just said is the fact. For example, everybody is watching television at their homes now and everyone is watching the television inside their brains; no one is watching the television outside. There is no light on the television outside for them to watch; there is no color, nor light. It is transparent, dark and pitch-black dark matter. There is no sound either. The sense of sound is interpreted by the brain. The brain perceives the electric waves as sound. The brain again perceives the waves as images. You have explained this before haven't you. At one moment, I've heard you talking..
ALTUĞ BERKER:We briefly mentioned it in the last part while talking about a fact leading to faith ..
ADNAN OKTAR: It was you who mentioned it, yes.. But that matter is very important so you should explain it in greater details. I mean it is not a subject matter that could be passed off. You need to explain it very technically and comprehensively.
ALTUĞ BERKER: Insha'Allah Master.
ADNAN OKTAR: Insha'Allah.. But now someone who understands this fully would be very excited, especially those with a sharp attention immediately realize that there is no matter, I mean that there is no matter in one sense. They would realize that images are formed inside the brain and this excites them very much. You see such people; they try to hold tables and try to hold stuff. They act as if they were trying not to get lost.. Yes.. They feel restless because they fear that they would be lost. To fight with this they make stimulating movements, in order not to get into that concentration. But to tell the truth; I acquit my brothers who do not understand, this happens with the sharpness of the mind. It does not happen with fuzziness of the mind. He can only realize technically. But he directly begins to live it with the sharpness of the mind. Because he lives it, he gets very much excited. He might think that he will be lost all of a sudden. Is it right? Did it happen like that? How did it happen? Tell us shortly?
PRESENTER: This is a very different thing. It happens all of a sudden and only sometimes, very rarely, but you look at yourself all of a sudden and a state of astonishment occurs.
ADNAN OKTAR: Right? As if you do not exist; as if you are at a loose end. Right? Yes.. Because I have seen this in many people before; my friends told so as well. When the person understands that there is no matter and that he is dealing with the image inside his brain that he is actually inside his brain, he enters into a completely different dimension and shape. I avoid such things with jokes not to make people restless, so that they do not focus their attention. That is because I am trying to distract people so that they do not get excited. People persistently keep saying; "Master tell us in more detail so that we can fully grasp it." My brother alright you would be comfortable but others get restless. There is a time for that. See how I will be telling you after the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) comes. See how I would be telling then.
PRESENTER 2: You wake up from the sleep but you cannot move. A trembling comes all of a sudden and it is like something enters inside.
ADNAN OKTAR:This is because you revive from death, because the soul enters the body at that moment.
PRESENTER 2: You remain motionless and a fear surrounds you from the inside and you feel like paralyzed.
ADNAN OKTAR:That is the moment of revival from death. Soul enters your body at that moment and thus the individual feels a sense of trembling sometimes. Sometimes he feels himself like a soul, like he is empty.
PRESENTER 2: And it feels like you've fallen into the bed all of a sudden.
ADNAN OKTAR:You wake up at that moment; that is why it happens.
PRESENTER 2: It also happens when you wake up in a scare, with a sound, with a noise.
ADNAN OKTAR: Well that is something different, that might be palpitation, one might feel excited in that case. What I mean is something different. I mean if a person wakes up as the soul enters the body, he might feel that, and that might terrify him a little. But no one should feel terrified; the appearance of matter would never disappear and because this is an environment of trial, that sense of matter, that sense of solidity and other senses would not be eliminated. They fear that those senses will be completely eliminated. They feel restless because of this.
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