Excerpt from Mr. Adnan Oktar's Live Interview on A9 TV dated September 4th, 2011
ADNAN OKTAR: The logic of Hazrat Khidr (pbuh) is not the same with the logic of the common people; I mean it is very different. Hazrat Khidr (pbuh) has very intricate calculations. He throws a stone to the sea and a wave forms and comes to have a bug in the shore drop into the sea, a frog there catches the bug and while doing so it jumps and startles the horse there. He has very strange systems. Hazrat Khidr (pbuh) makes sequential plans by the leave of Allah. September 11th, is an incident which had been a strong cause for the increase both in Islam and in piety of Christians and Jews. Devoutness has increased immensely, the inclination towards Islam has increased immensely; it had caused the invasion of Afghanistan and it had caused the invasion of Iraq. Are the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq portents of the appearance of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh)? PRESENTER: Yes, insha'Allah. ADNAN OKTAR: Did Hazrat Khidr (pbuh) read it in the Book? He did, didn't he? It is mentioned in the hadiths. Let me not finish the sentence.. Hazrat Khidr (pbuh) has very intricate plans, let me say that much. He made very intricate plans also in Libya, he made intricate plans for Egypt and he is making intricate plans in Turkey as well. He shapes politics, he manages armies, he guides events; the truth of the matter we have said that they have placed atomic bombs at the foundation of that building or that they have placed a similar mechanism. That is not in the atomic bomb in the sense that we know. That is a type of bomb that has been used for the People of Lot. This bomb has been used on the People of Lot and the same bomb has been used there as well. Someone places the same bomb at the foundation of that building. That is something made by combining two simple materials; something that never comes across people's minds. When they [Angels] go there, they say; "we will annihilate whoever there is in here, so you should depart early in the morning." The Prophet Abraham (pbuh) says; "Lot is there." And they say "We know it all, you just feel at ease." Insha'Allah. "Only his wife will be among those who will remain." I mean she will go down with them that is apparent, it is defined in her destiny. "But no one should turn back and look," they say. So this weapon, this bomb, this material has a different effect. I do not know if there is need for any further detail. For instance Azerbaijan was invaded, that is mentioned in the hadiths. What happened when Azerbaijan had been invaded? Azerbaijan became very devout, they have had a desire to unite with Turkey. What happened when the PKK terror got fierce in Turkey? There had been an immense inclination towards Turkish Islamic Union, there had been a great return to Islam and the Qur'an. What happened in Bosnia after that massacre? All the region became pious and Muslims. Was it the case before? No it was not. Hazrat Khidr (pbuh) is involved in all those sorts of events. He leads the events with wisdom, with a goal. He leads history, he designs history by the will of Allah. Hazrat Khidr (pbuh) is a historian, he forms the history, he is a means for history and he is an instrument within the history. Now he is again guiding history. He is paving the way for Hazrat Mahdi at the moment, he is paving the way for the Prophet Jesus Messiah (pbuh) and is guiding the history; that is his mission. Then he will pave the way for the Last Day. He shapes the date of the Last Day. At the last moment of the Last Day, he will withdraw. That is because then his mission will be completed. If you ask these to Hazrat Khidr (pbuh), he would see all these activities as very normal; but we find them strange, I mean these are relative things. For instance the Prophet Jesus Messiah (pbuh) considers himself to be a very modest Muslim, if we were to talk to Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) he too would also think of himself as a sinful, weak servant of Allah; he would not have such a feeling of supremacy, haughtiness. They too have the characteristics of Hazrat Khidr (pbuh), they too guide the history with the prompting of Allah. Both of them are the students of Hazrat Khidr (pbuh). Just like the Prophet Moses (pbuh) being his student, Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) is also the student of Hazrat Khidr (pbuh), the Prophet Jesus Messiah (pbuh) will be the student of Hazrat Khidr (pbuh) as well.. Now the building.. we say masons.. Well, this is first curtain over the incident. When we dig in one more level we come face to face with Hazrat Khidr (pbuh), if you dig in a bit more you would see the angels, if you dig a bit more or let us say if you go upper it is the pure power of Allah. We are just saying this as the sequence of causes. I mean in summary, all those have come to existence with a wisdom, they are not void. The Messenger of Allah (saas) has foretold a dusty smoky dissension. That is bound to happen. The one commissioned for this is Hazrat Khidr (pbuh). The history will be guided, the history will be formed and he guides history. That is it. That is how destiny is shaped. For instance our Prophet (saas) sees back in his own time what Hazrat Khidr (pbuh) has done. He foretells the incident Hazrat Khidr (pbuh) has done, 1400 years before it happened. Because there is no time, because he goes beyond time he tells us about it. He does so by going beyond time, by going beyond space. So what is used is not the known classical atomic bomb. In many places of the Qur'an it writes "a scream was enough". Angels come to a region and they say; "As-salamun alaykom, we came here. We are commissioned. You leave here; these should leave, these can stay back, that is alright." They generally use the morning time.. Morning hours, the time of day breaking is the time Hazrat Khidr (pbuh) and angels get hold of them. Hazrat Khidr (pbuh) has many other characteristics, many other abilities, I mean he has talents that you would be amazed with. And he does those with very easy causes, he does those with causes which seem to be intricate to us in the first sight but which are actually very simple by the leave of Allah, by the command of Allah. For instance in the atomic bombs, a reaction begins with two elements coming together. There are systems in this world similar to this but people are not aware of that, I mean the science has not yet discovered those and by the leave of Allah it would not be made possible for them to discover them. These are very simple systems. For instance there is a technology used at the time of the Prophet Moses (pbuh), at the time of the Prophet Solomon (pbuh). For instance electricity has been used widely in the time of the Pharaoh. It has been used in the construction technology, additionally in cutting stones and metals they have used a system like laser technology. But we do not know how they did that, I mean there are some very blurry information. For instance what we could determine by now is that they hide this material inside a thick lead block, that it is in the form of granule and that they have placed it separate inside lead again and they also mention a green colored stone placed. I mean a green stone that radiates light; we do not know what that is. We will make these a book later on, we will elaborate on them and make a book out of it. I mean as the history is examined such things can be caught from here and there, these can be then noticed.. When the images, images belonging to that period and documents, I mean when the photos of those stones, photos of those reliefs are examined, we can see some parts of these.
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