Highlights from Mr. Adnan Oktar's interview on 22 September 2011

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A9 TV; 22 September 2011

(About the belief in the vanished Mahdi (pbuh))

There is a terrible situation right now. They know the belief in the vanished Mahdi (pbuh) is false. They have turned the imprisonment of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh), his hiding himself away for a while, into something completely different. We need a meeting of the islamic scholars to correct this false belief en masse and put an end to this historic error. It is no good just Ahmadinajad or Khamenei giving it up. Because a large part of the Iranian people have been misinformed on this subject, too. There was misinformation in the past. It is impossible for Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) to come in the manner they describe; zero possibility. But Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) and all the major signs have appeared, just like our Prophet (pbuh) said. I prove that again and again, with documentary evidence. Let just one member of the Iranian scholars tell me this is wrong. Let him tell me, “This hadith and this portent are wrong. They can’t. Because they are true. Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) was born to a mother and a father, just like our Prophet (pbuh). Our Prophet (pbuh) did not hide away in a cave for thousands of years, did he? No prophet has ever hidden away for however many years. They all lived normal lives. They fought, suffered, and went hungry and thirsty. Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) is the same. The Mahdi they describe, that metaphysical, phantom Mahdi, will obviously never appear. No Muslim will believe that; nobody will really believe it. They do not believe it themselves. I used to think they genuinely believe it. Then I saw the Mahdi they describe is someone able to make instantaneous contact. As an image, a voice, a corporeal image. So there would be no need for Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) to come at all. They have in any case confirmed that, saying “There is no telling when Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will appear.” But what about all the portents? The portents listed by our Prophet (pbuh). They are totally discounted in that case. “There is no telling when he will appear,” they say. What a thing to say! That is self-fulfilling. Since, on the basis of that, there is no need, why should Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) appear? You already see him as an image whenever you wish, and speak with him when you want something, and that is then given to you. By that logic, why should Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) appear? They are confirming that Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will not be coming. They are doing terrible harm. That needs to be corrected right away.

Most people are unaffected by talk about injustices. Some people talk about injustice all the time. Communists are sometimes right on some issues. They complain about war and injustice. Of course, they do not implement justice, but they do complain about it. There is fear in 99% of the world as a whole. Most people are timid and apathetic. What good can we do, they say. Imagine someone becoming head of state in America. Then they say, “Now we may attract hostility from the Armenians, or from the Jews, or from Muslims, or from some particular country.” We will just have to cope as best we can. They are reluctant to tell the full truth. They are worried about pressure. Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will not hesitate in the face of pressure, but will tell the truth. That is Hazrat Mahdi’s (pbuh) advantage. Whoever the leader is, he is alone. Whoever it is, he is alone. He has a very small circle. Leaders do not have very large circles. But Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will be very powerful since his circle will be the whole Islamic world. Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) relies on Allah and Muslims. He has the support of Muslims, and that of Allah and the angels, so he is very powerful. But at the moment none of the world’s leaders are openly able to oppose injustice, if you have noticed. Obama uses a hesitant language and adopts policies of equilibrium. Because they would remove him from his post. They could remove him in a moment, or have him assassinated or pressurize him or attack him, or anything. That is why he feels he has to tread carefully. You look at someone else and they are the same. But Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will put an end to that imbalance. Because he is unaffected. Satan and the hordes of the dajjal [antichrist] apply pressure, but none of it wears Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) down. There is a hadith about it, “Mountains rise up before him, but he cuts through them and hoes on his way,” insha’Allah.

I am always saying that “Muslims must be brothers.” “The Palestinians must be free,” I say. “The prisons will be emptied out,” I say. “The bloodshed will cease, not a drop will be spilled,” I say. “The sleeper will not be wakened,” I say. But what does all that mean? If there is no bloodshed in Palestine, if they are completely free, if they can use the whole region as they wish, if the sleeper is not wakened, if the prisons are emptied out, apart from people who have killed… I say, “The prisons will be emptied out. Is that not answer enough? What else do I have to say? Should I say, “Israel be damned?” To say “Israel be damned” is disbelief. Israel is the name of a prophet. That is a wrong thing to say. Why should I want Israel to be devastated? I want it to be well off. And Palestine, too. I want everyone to live in peace. What do they want me to do? I guess they want me to say that Israel should be bombed into oblivion, wiped from the face of history, that its children and everyone should be slaughtered. Is that what you want me to say? What kind of thinking is that? Where does it all end? Why do I bother talking at all? “The Palestinians must be brothers, and we will embrace them all,” I say. Young Israelis and Palestinians will embrace one another. I say there will be peace. What do we need to do? Seek revenge? In that case we would have to slaughter all of Israel. Do you want us to draw our swords? Forgive me, but that would be utterly foolish talk. Mindless talk. Islam is all about peace. Its name means peace. It is a characteristic of paradise. Of course, we must call people to peace. What do we need to do? Should we demand conflict? They want bloodshed day and night. I am trying to stop bloodshed. But they want more of it. It is terrible persecution, immorality and lack of good conscience to bomb and slaughter innocent men, women and children in Israel. What else could it be? The same goes for Palestine. It is equally immoral. What I am saying, is that it must all stop. Have I ever said, “One side must stop while the other carries on regardless?” In other words, have I ever said: “People in Palestine are evil while those in Israel are good”, “Let Israel go and butcher people in Palestine as it pleases”? All the persecution here must stop. All of it.” That is sufficient answer. I have always said, “Let there be peace and brotherhood; they must embrace one another.” I say, “There is plenty of land, so let them use it as they like.” Let them live freely, as brothers. I have always said, “One people are the sons of Ishmael and the others the sons of Israel. They are the children of the prophets Ishmael (pbuh) and Israel (pbuh).” That is word for word what I said. It is on the tapes. But these psychopaths are crazy for blood. They insist on bloodshed. They are also base and cowardly people, who will flee at once if fighting starts. They throw their weight around, but things are not as you might imagine. They threw their weight around in Iraq. Then they provided girls and women for the American troops. They sell drugs. They sell Marlboro. They engage in wrongdoing of all kinds. The Iraqi Army disappeared overnight. In one night, when the U.S. invasion began. They used to throw their weight around, but then tried to find burrows to hide in. The newspapers described how “the huge Iraqi Army vanished overnight.” But that it one of the omens of the coming of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh). And this has also come about. They also threw their weight around in Afghanistan. Now they are selling drugs to U.S. troops. That is how they make a living. Do not imagine that those who throw their weight around will stand up if anything happens. They will immediately go and hide. The way of the Mahdi means love, peace and brotherhood. Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) is coming to stop the bloodshed. We are followers of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh).

The Qur’an beckons us toward peace. Whoever commits a crime should be punished. But what can we want from Israeli children? Why should we try to punish innocent women and children? Whoever commits a crime should be punished. They must be punished according to what the law dictates. But in terms of societies and communities, it is peace that counts. Israelis, Palestinians, Arabs, the peoples of Morocco. Tunisia, Algeria, Libya, Afghanistan, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Armenia and everyone must all embrace one another. They must love one another. Be friends and brothers. Satan wants bloodshed. What I see is that they are desperately trying to get Turkey and Israel to go to war. In their own eyes. There is a handful of atheist freemasons in Israel. And there is that alleged terror organization Ergenekon in Turkey. Those jackals are all in cahoots. The two sides are inciting one another. They are determined to make things happen. The evangelicals in America will say, “Look, the Gospel says ‘the antichrists will fight with Israel’. And that has happened. Muslims are the army of the antichrist and they are now fighting against Israel. And now they are saying that Jesus the Messiah will come.” They are planning for a huge, bloody world war. But we are thwarting this plan of satan’s. That is the truth of the matter. Plain and simple.

They come to Bediüzzaman, -Well, now  this is a new statement, an important one-; “The dajjal will have a vehicle in the End Times,” they say. They speak of the dajjal’s donkey in the hadiths. “His ears will be like those of an elephant. He will make a loud noise as he moves. He will also leave behind a vile smoke as he moves. So what is this?” “It is a description of the motor car,” says Bediüzzaman. “The doors open like an elephant’s ears. There is the sound of the exhaust and the smoke it emits,” he says. This is one of Bediüzzaman’s superb statements, an unknown one though, insha’Allah.

It is not in fact all that complicated. People make it unduly complicated. There is nothing complicated about Israel living at ease in the region; that is an easy matter. But they portray it as difficult. It is not that hard for the Arabs to live in peace, but they make that complicated, too. Yet it is very easy. There is nothing impossible in it. They will live as friends and brothers, and just have to eliminate any feelings of hatred and enmity. The spirit of conflict must be eliminated and everyone must genuinely renounce their own rights and eradicate that anger inside them; they must live in peace, as friends. But that calls for will power. People are unable to come by that will power as entire communities, as collective personalities. It is essential for there to be a leader. There has to be a brain in charge so they can do this. They cannot do it so long as there is no such brain. The name of that brain is Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh). The result is anarchy when there is no one brain at the head of the Islamic world, but a many-brained body instead. Then the body turns cancerous. They all push in different directions. The body cannot act as one.  But if you have a body with a single brain, then that body can act very easily. But when a body of 1.5 billion members has 1.5 billion brains the body goes bankrupt. I mean, imagine someone with many brains, a hundred brains. One brain will tell him to go out while another tells him to stay indoors. One will tell him to eat something and another will tell him not to. What will happen to the body? The result will be anarchy. The body will start to turn on itself. Cancer will grow. That is why cancer grows in society. Cancer is forming in the Islamic world, in the world as a whole, and people are finding themselves at an impasse. But Allah is sending the Prophet Jesus the Messiah (pbuh) to the Christian world in order to eradicate that cancer, as well as Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) to the Muslim world, in order that this corruption should come to an end, so they should be connected to a single brain and thus live at ease.


2011-10-24 10:22:06

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